8VSB will be around longer than you or I, and will be stronger. Same is true for OFDM; but the latter will never be strong in the U.S.; it will however, be slightly more popular among broadcast viewers as PAL or SECAM were in the U.S. John Willkie > -----Original Message----- > From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Bob Miller > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:46 PM > To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [opendtv] Re: 200 Mile 8VSB Reception > > High darned time to kill the Frankenstein beast, 8-VSB. > > And I am working on it. Whether I am successful or not 8-VSB will self > distruct IMO. > > Bob Miller > > On 1/17/07, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > John Shutt wrote: > > > > > Good for you, Bert. > > > > > > Here is Jan's 1999 report in full. Bottom line: Both systems > > > were received from 62.2 miles away from a 50 KW erp transmitter. > > > > John, I believe in full and honest disclosure. If you mention the > > Sinclair tests, then talk about the Sinclair tests. Not someone else's > > test. > > > > In any event, my takeaway from Jan's test was that in the far field, the > > receivers were roughly equal. "Subjectively, there were slightly more > > glitches using COFDM than using 8-VSB." > > > > Therefore, if 8-VSB receivers are updated and improved to the point > > where urban reception is good, e.g. in-Mark-Schubin's-apartment good, > > THEN we can finally stop obsessing over COFDM and instead concentrate on > > making things happen with what we've got. > > > > It's high darned time, John. > > > > Also, note that the sensitivity of all of the receivers was just so-so. > > All but one were -78 dBm, which is not so impressive. Must have had > > highish noise figures. > > > > Here's an example of making things happen. I notice that Mark Aitken's > > CW 54 station has gone blank in 54-2 and 54-3. Past couple or three > > weeks, I believe. Hey Mark. What are your plans? How about France 24 on > > one of those, as a perfect OTA substitute for CNN? Also, add a third > > subchannel to Fox 45. > > > > Thanks!! > > > > Bert > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.