[obol] Re: RFI: Immature Eurasian-collared Doves
- From: J Hayes <balgryph@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: whoffman@xxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 20:23:28 -0700
There is a bona fide "Ringed Turtle-Dove" that has been co-coo-coo-ing in
my inner SE Portland neighborhood for the past month.
I first saw it gobbling seed at a feeder a couple blocks up the street, but
it has chosen my block as its home base, as I hear and see it regularly
several times each day.
It is about the size of a Mourning Dove, but with a square tail, pearly
white below, with a smaller dark collar than on a ECDO.
Funny thing, there is an ECDO that has been around since March, and several
times I've seen it attack and chase its smaller, paler cousin from its
favorite perch on the power pole across the street.
Fun fact: I saw FIVE species of columbiforms within walking distance of my
home during the third week of May 2014. Four of those species are
countable on official lists, the fifth is merely a curiosity.
- Jeff Hayes
On Jun 8, 2014 5:09 PM, "Wayne Hoffman" <whoffman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi -
>
> Eurasian Collared-doves have a fairly rare pale morph, which is what this
> bird appears to be. Although escaped/feral Ringed Turtle-Dove have
> apparently occurred in Oregon, I suspect most of those reported are
> actually these pale-morph Eurasians. Captive-reared Ringed-Turtledoves are
> a bit smaller, and in your photo with 2 birds they seem the same size.
>
> The Eurasian Collared-Doves that have recently colonized North America had
> at least a brief episode of captivity and probably captive breeding in
> their history, so perhaps these pale birds were a selected variety.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Hannah Fritz <hannah.fritz@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> I've been curious about a dove that's been visiting my yard for about a
>> month now. It's much paler than the typical dark gray Eurasian
>> Collared-Doves that I have. I am assuming it is an immature bird, but
>> trying to find a description of immature Eurasian Collared-Doves is being
>> somewhat elusive, since it's mixed in with reports of African
>> Collared-Doves/Ringed Turtledoves/whatever you want to call them and how to
>> tell the two apart. I haven't been able to see the bird from underneath, to
>> check out the undertail coverts, nor have I heard it. Or.. I have heard
>> ECDs and nothing else, which may be just as telling.
>>
>> I know if this bird were anything other than an imm. ECD, it would be an
>> escapee, and I'm not looking to "count" it. Just curious if this is what
>> young birds look like, or just a different color variation or what.
>>
>> A few pics:
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/eggwhite/birds/dove_zps4d384798.png
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/eggwhite/birds/doves_zps577e1176.png
>>
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/eggwhite/birds/msyt_dove_zps1cff0cc9.png
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Hannah Fritz
>> St. Helens, OR
>>
>
>
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