Hello Roger,
You do have a great point about taking what people say on the
BrailleNote users listserve with a grain of salt. As for your
Windows 10 point, I agree with you on that front as well; I
actually tried out a Windows 10 braille notetaker, called the
InsideOne, and let me tell you, it sucked! I also tried the B2G,
an Android braille notetaker, and it sucked as well. I also
agree with you, that I can't assume what a device is like until I
try it. If I am able to try one out, I will most definitely put
it through its paces. So, before I make a decision as to which
notetaker to ask for from DVR, I will have to try both devices
out.
Thanks,
Zach
Sent from a BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adaptive Information Systems Inc." <aistech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <notetakerinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:26:16 -0500
Subject: [notetakerinfo] Re: Thoughts on the B2G
Hi Zack,
You do not know that the touch relies on Keysoft and not Andrid
for the
operating system.
Also as Google and Greg explain, the touch is a high-bread of
android, so
that means HumanWare can pick and choose from android 5.x, 6.x,
and 7.x for
features that are stable and would work great in the touch's
android 4.4 and
keysoft.
Also the version of android on the touch will be supported for
many years to
come, according to Greg and Google.
People don't understand that the newest and latest version of
software and
hardware doesn't mean there stable, accessible, or full of buggs.
Just look at windows 10, how many features are still not
accessible to
screen readers or have issues that almost 2 years since it has
been
released, people are still bitching about it!
I have been in the business for over 25 years in the computer and
adaptive
field and have seen so called great products fail, over hiped.
I just came back from a TVI/O&M conference in Wisconsin, teachers
of
visually impaired and orientation and mobility persons, who have
students
who just can not stop speaking Highly of the touch and what it
now can do
for them and their schools mates in the public school field.
Greg stilson is a person who has used the BrailleNote famly of
products
since the first unit came out in 2001, when he was in tenth grade
in public
high school in Madison Wisconsin and he used the BrailleNote
through college
receiving a math and computer major and now has been working for
HumanWare
for 10 years and is only 34 years old and loves what he is doing
as the
blindness product manager at Humanware.
You must consider the peoples opinions on the BrailleNote list
serv with a
grain of salt, until you try out the touch and put it through its
steps, you
can not jump to any conclusions.
The person sending his touch back, Joshua, never gave it a
chance, even
though he owned a Apex for a year, but never really used it
either.
What he has stated in his reasons are totally false, and he never
called me
nor HumanWare, to help him with keymail program or other apps, I
sold it to
him and he was bugging me for over a year how he wanted the
touch, now he
has it a very low price and he wants to send it back.
I wil refund his money, as long as everything is returned the
same way he
received it, but I just feel he is not comfortable with Braille
or a note
taker of any kind.
Just thought you might want to know true facts, not alternative
facts or
Trumpisms!
Regards,
Roger
Adaptive Information Systems Inc.
We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading
Disabled
Roger A. Behm, President
1611 Clover Lane
Janesville WI 53545-1388
Fax: 608-758-7898
Voice: 608-758-0933
Email: aistech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web Page: www.adaptiveinformation.org
-----Original Message-----
From: notetakerinfo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:notetakerinfo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zachary
Morris
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:57 PM
To: notetakerinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [notetakerinfo] Re: Thoughts on the B2G
Hello,
I did find the article that Greg wrote. The only reason I said
most of those things were from other people's many complaints
about the Touch such as in one person's example, five apps
crashed at the same time. But question, aren't the specs on the
Touch just a little outdated? I'm not trying to sound mean, but
Wifi standards from 2013, and it doesn't support 5G connectivity,
I don't think. But on the other hand, the Touch does have things
that Hims doesn't such as full nemeth support, a removable
battery, upgradable internal storage, and a camera in the center.
I also must give the Touch credit where credit is due, from what
I heard, it has a much better TTS engine.
Thanks,
Zach
Sent from a BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adaptive Information Systems Inc." <aistech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <notetakerinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 21:39:05 -0500
Subject: [notetakerinfo] Re: Thoughts on the B2G
Hi Zack,
You are so wrong about the touch screen on the touch.
The polaris needs a touch hscreen to be approved by google.
There are some many things missing from the Polaris, if you could
only see
Greg Stilson document in the comparison on both android tablets,
you would
not even pick the Polaris!
No removable battery, no removable internal memory, no adding
more internal
memory like 128 GB for the touch offers, camera not even cnetered
no glash,
I and others want to b in the sighted world not in the blind
world!
Theh 7 inchh scrren offers fellow friends, family and IT personal
on the job
or at school to assist in customizing the touch to the network at
school or
work.
You are so brainwashed about HIMS products!
Good luck with the failed Polaris!!!
Regards,
Roger
Adaptive Information Systems Inc.
We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading
Disabled
Roger A. Behm, President
1611 Clover Lane
Janesville WI 53545-1388
Fax: 608-758-7898
Voice: 608-758-0933
Email: aistech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web Page: www.adaptiveinformation.org
-----Original Message-----
From: notetakerinfo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:notetakerinfo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zachary
Morris
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 7:13 PM
To: notetakerinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [notetakerinfo] Re: Thoughts on the B2G
My opinion, if some sighted person wanted access to a screen,
then they should bring their own screen to hok it up too, no
offense. And Android gestures on the Touch? From what I heard,
forget it.
Thanks,
Zach
Sent from a BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@xxxxxxxxx
To: notetakerinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:48:08 -0500
Subject: [notetakerinfo] Re: Thoughts on the B2G
In case a sighted person needed to look at your touch for some
reason.
Also a person who is familiar with android gestures could use the
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On 4/24/17, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Why would you want the polaris to have a screen? Pam.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 4:38 PM
To: notetakerinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [notetakerinfo] Re: Thoughts on the B2G
I may not like the touch for reasons of my own, but I'd still
take the
touch over the polaris. I heard a presentation on the polaris
and
thought the device wasn't that good. Just because it runs a
newer
version of android doesn't mean its better. I don't like that
the
polaris doesn't have any kind of visual screen. Also, for me,
the
polaris had way to many buttons on it. Also, from the
presentation I
heard, the voice on the device sounded like a piece of crap.
The nice
thing about the touch, were the voices on it were very clear, it
could
connect to wifi extremely fast. I had no problems with the
processor
on the touch, I was just upset that I couldn't install certain
apps.
Even though I may return my touch, doesn't mean I won't be
interested
in hearing any new updates that will be coming along. I'm not
exactly
sure even if I will return the touch. I'm just considering it.
There
are several apps that work very well on the touch. I like using
Skype
on the device and pandora, and youtube. Reading bookshare books
also
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On 4/24/17, Zachary Morris <morriszachary99@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Josh,
I thought you said, on a different email list, that you were
going to return the Touch because you thought it sucked. I was
actually thinking about getting a BrailleSense Polaris, which is
coming out later next month, with much better hardware.
Thanks,
Zach
Sent from a BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@xxxxxxxxx
To: notetakerinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:12:36 -0500
Subject: [notetakerinfo] Re: Thoughts on the B2G
I would not get A B2G at all. The touch is a much better
device.
I
have only had my touch a short time, but it really works well.
It
connects to wifi extremely quickly, and I can use apps like
pandora,
skype, and youtube. I have heard from people who have had a
b2gg,
but the device isn't google certified yet. I'd go with the
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On 4/24/17, Zachary Morris <morriszachary99@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm a new member on this list, my name is Zachary Morris. I
have
a friend who uses a B2G, and he said that it was a decent
device,
after being out for over a year, and I would like to know any
other people's thoughts on this braille device, if any of you
have one.
Thanks,
Zach
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