[ncolug] Re: Interesting Ubuntu Development

  • From: Dev Null <aptget@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ncolug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 10:38:38 -0400

Linux was "divisive" long before Gnome was even invented. How could someone decide between Gnome and KDE when they first had to choose from among a hundred or so distributions even at the time Gnome came out - and there are 480 now. Combined with the fact that most people never even understood what an "operating system" was, Linux never had a chance.

The desktop is dead. Web services and browsers became the OS of choice for most people about 5 years ago.

On 04/06/2017 09:11 AM, Henry Keultjes wrote:

So what about KDE ? I was using it when GNOME was started and I still use it. As far as I am concerned there should never have been a GNOME because Miguel de Icaza used some BS excuse that Qt was not truly open source. In the end it was pretty much proven that de Icaza did it to get rich, when he sold his company to Novell.

GNOME made Linux divisive and the competition used it heavily and thus prevented Linux from making headway against Microsoft. If you want to argue that choice was better, just look at the numbers! However, the DE was to the casual user just something that really should not matter. It was there because you needed that software to run modern applications. I agree and if de Icaza had used his talents to improve KDE we would be much further along.

Howwever, in the end, *WE WILL GET THERE*!

Henry Keultjes
Mansfield Ohio USA

GNOME was started on August 15^[38] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-38> 1997 by Miguel de Icaza <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza> and Federico Mena^[39] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-39> as a free software <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software> project to develop a desktop environment <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment> and applications <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_software> for it.^[40] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-40> It was founded in part because K Desktop Environment <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Desktop_Environment_1>, an already existing free software desktop environment, relied on the Qt <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28toolkit%29> widget toolkit <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget_toolkit> which used a proprietary software <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software> license until version 2.0 (June 1999).^[41] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-41> ^[42] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-42> In place of Qt, the GTK+ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B> toolkit was chosen as the base of GNOME. GTK+ uses the GNU Lesser General Public License <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Lesser_General_Public_License> (LGPL), a free software license that allows software linking to it to use a much wider set of licenses, including proprietary software licenses.^[43] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-43> GNOME itself is licensed under the LGPL for its libraries, and the GNU General Public License <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License> (GPL) for its applications.^[44] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-44>

On 04/05/2017 09:28 PM, Brian Glover wrote:
Thanks for sharing the update Rob.

Thank you for your support!

Brian Glover
Technology Solutions Consulting
www.technologysolutionsconsulting.net
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Subject: [ncolug] Interesting Ubuntu Development

All,

Interesting reports from the Ubuntu camp...  Looks like they are recognizing 
that Unity wasn't going anywhere fast.

https://betanews.com/2017/04/05/canonical-killing-unity-for-ubuntu-linux-will-switch-to-the-superior-gnome/

In short, in 18.04LTS, Ubuntu will switch to using GNOME as their default 
desktop environment.

Rob

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