I agree:
"The desktop is dead. Web services and browsers became the OS of choice for
most people about 5 years ago."
The OS is not an important or meaningful discriminating factor to most.
--
-jim
Jim Willeke
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Henry Keultjes <keultjesh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good reading from you, Larry!
Henry
On 04/06/2017 10:38 AM, Dev Null wrote:
Linux was "divisive" long before Gnome was even invented. How could
someone decide between Gnome and KDE when they first had to choose from
among a hundred or so distributions even at the time Gnome came out - and
there are 480 now. Combined with the fact that most people never even
understood what an "operating system" was, Linux never had a chance.
The desktop is dead. Web services and browsers became the OS of choice for
most people about 5 years ago.
On 04/06/2017 09:11 AM, Henry Keultjes wrote:
So what about KDE ? I was using it when GNOME was started and I still use
it. As far as I am concerned there should never have been a GNOME because
Miguel de Icaza used some BS excuse that Qt was not truly open source. In
the end it was pretty much proven that de Icaza did it to get rich, when
he sold his company to Novell.
GNOME made Linux divisive and the competition used it heavily and thus
prevented Linux from making headway against Microsoft. If you want to
argue that choice was better, just look at the numbers! However, the DE
was to the casual user just something that really should not matter. It
was there because you needed that software to run modern applications. I
agree and if de Icaza had used his talents to improve KDE we would be much
further along.
Howwever, in the end, *WE WILL GET THERE*!
Henry Keultjes
Mansfield Ohio USA
GNOME was started on August 15[38]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-38> 1997 by Miguel de Icaza
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza> and Federico Mena[39]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-39> as a free software
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software> project to develop a desktop
environment <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment> and
applications <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_software> for it.
[40] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-40> It was founded in
part because K Desktop Environment
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Desktop_Environment_1>, an already
existing free software desktop environment, relied on the Qt
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28toolkit%29> widget toolkit
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget_toolkit> which used a proprietary
software <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software> license
until version 2.0 (June 1999).[41]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-41>[42]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-42> In place of Qt, the
GTK+ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B> toolkit was chosen as the
base of GNOME. GTK+ uses the GNU Lesser General Public License
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Lesser_General_Public_License> (LGPL),
a free software license that allows software linking to it to use a much
wider set of licenses, including proprietary software licenses.[43]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-43> GNOME itself is
licensed under the LGPL for its libraries, and the GNU General Public
License <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License> (GPL)
for its applications.[44]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#cite_note-44>
On 04/05/2017 09:28 PM, Brian Glover wrote:
Thanks for sharing the update Rob.
Thank you for your support!
Brian Glover
Technology Solutions
Consultingwww.technologysolutionsconsulting.netbrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(419)
855-2211
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Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 9:12 PM
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Subject: [ncolug] Interesting Ubuntu Development
All,
Interesting reports from the Ubuntu camp... Looks like they are recognizing
that Unity wasn't going anywhere fast.
https://betanews.com/2017/04/05/canonical-killing-unity-for-ubuntu-linux-will-switch-to-the-superior-gnome/
In short, in 18.04LTS, Ubuntu will switch to using GNOME as their default
desktop environment.
Rob
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