[naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo

From: Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx>
To: "naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 20:43:13 +0000

Wow that looks SO much better!  I am so happy for you and little Frodo.....it
looked so painful before.

Blessings,
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From: naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Brenda Bennett <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 11:28 AM
To: naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Janet G <wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo

Guess who’s cute as a button and has all pink skin now! Mr Frodo! Yes there is
some medium and dark pink spots but there aren’t any red or open sores. I put
SDD on the dark pink spots that were sores yesterday and A&d on the rest. Then
put a diaper on a tiny bit side ways to cover that upper leg and keep it from
rubbing off until it’s absorbed in good. I hope it doesn’t get into the nearby
fur too badly and cause Matts?

I’ll be using only A&D (or butt paste ) starting tomorrow to keep him healing
and dry. I just have to make sure I use warm wet cotton balls to clean his skin
and dry with toilet paper before putting on the a&d or butt paste? I don’t want
to seal in any germs or  infection which is why I’ve been using SDD until sores
are gone. Vet wants me to switch to cornstarch on the skin but i had been doing
that this past month and it didn’t prevent this scalding. and if his skin
starts to get irritated again from urine or laying in the same spot all the
time, I have to shampoo the cornstarch off before I can put ointment on.

Thanks everyone. Frodo still has all his other problems, but he should be much
more comfortable now.

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-Brenda
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On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Roberta Kessler <rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

l agree with you, Janet..prayer is very powerful.
Good is in my prayers, too.

Love,
Roberta
On 12/04/2021 11:45 AM Janet G <wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It’s looking much better to me Brenda. If all is healed up I  would maintain it
with either the  butte paste my rescue friend told me about in the yellow box,
or I personally would just use A and D to keep it protected without
antibacterial or antibiotics in it….. Honestly, you will have to decide, but
both are good options. I only have used the Aand D…a lot of things I’ve used
because of no vets I had to ask others who had experience with the situation
and then weigh the pros and cons. Ans when rehabbing hares, there were
literally no vets who knew poop about rabbits or hares….I had to research
library,,even research on antibiotics that were tested on rabbits and other
meds to find safe choices,

Whatever you do, it looks like he’s much better, thank God.  I will definitely
continue to pray for Frodo. I believe that works too.

Love, Janet

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 9:11 AM Brenda Bennett
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Is the consensus that I wait until all the sores are healed (no broken skin)
before i switch from SDD silver sulfa.. to A&D ointment (or Butt Paste if that
doesn’t stay on or help)?  My vet just gave me the SDD and said twice and day
and keep it dry or else. I emailed the holistic vet and she said in between the
SDD applications I could use the wound balm i alread ly have — which has
beeswax, olive oil, yarrow, burdock root, echinacea root ( because it’s
anti-microbial, an immune system stimulant, and anti-inflammatory). But I think
the A&D would be better because it’s harder to wipe off.

Here is this mornings photo with and without flash. The blanket is white and my
hands aren’t red, they are more like the color in the flash photo, so I think
the flash photo is more accurate. I don’t remember him being  red when Jim was
taking the photo! Medium to dark pink with a few red spots.

Anyway he has some broken skin to the right near his tail and we need to
shave/clip that area and the perimeter of the bald area because it’s trying to
Matt in a few places and probably holds dampness. I charged up my ladies
shaver/groomer and have 2 heads I can try that have guards. If that doesn’t
work I need a men’s barber clipper. I wish I could have had the vets staff do
it. I go again this week for his checkup so they can pretty it up for me

During the night he had a weird scanning move he was doing, even in his sleep i
think. He would be still and then twitch his head and scan (move head to the
right) a little and then go back. After several seconds it would repeat. I put
him on my lap and massaged him and it seemed to go away. He loved the massage
anyway. I don’t think he’s doing it this morning.  He did escape his diaper in
the middle of night but wasn’t wet and didn’t slide around In poop. I got
another diaper on and that stayed on til morning. So success!

You all are good sports to keep reading my lengthy posts and looking at the
unpleasant photos. I can’t go in with Frodo for his appointments, the vet calls
us and tells us what she thought of his exam, and she is so busy she doesn’t
have much time to talk. So I feel like I’m on my own to figure out the finer
details

With love ,
Brenda and Frodo

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-Brenda
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:01 PM, Roberta Kessler
<rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Brenda,

It is so good to hear that Frodo had a good day today...I pray there will be
more and more of those.

I can't advise you on low gas and low calcium greens, and hope someone else can.

Love,
Roberta
On 12/03/2021 5:59 PM Brenda Bennett
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

He’s having a good day today.  Yesterday he was doing a lot of scanning and
wasn’t very chipper at all.   I don’t know that the dizziness is any better -
he seems fine when he’s sitting still but when we set him on his feet he runs
in circles for a few seconds or a minute until he falls over and you can see
that his eyes are moving left to right. Well, he runs in circles If his back
legs are working that day. I’ve been putting him in a harness to help balance
him so he can get a few Minutes of walking and exercise each day. He was able
to walk around 3 weeks if I set him on his feet, but hes been declining since
then. But today he is pretty peppy. Maybe he hasn’t been eating much for a week
because his skin hurts. He’d eat the whole store’s worth of parsley if I let
him.

Speaking of … you guys know off hand low gas low calcium greens? I need to
watch him because he got a bladder stone last year. And he’s prone to gas.
Although the vets day bladder sludge/stones is more about hydration and
exercise than diet. So I have to jiggle his bladder every day to stir anything
in there up so they come out.  I’m now feeding him dandelion greens and
cilantro and parsley.  I actually had to stop giving him greens a couple years
ago except as a treat because the more I gave him the more often he’d get GI
stasis. When I stopped the greens he stopped getting stasis every week. And
Balin usually refuses greens anyway. I have weird bunnies for sure. But since
Frodos appetite is so low now and he won’t drink, I’m giving him wet greens
several times a day and sub q fluids daily. He’s on gut motility drugs anyway
so what the heck.  Vet said up to 2 cups of greens a day. Some days we go over
that just to get him to eat something. He can’t believe his good fortune as far
as the greens go. As you can tell from the video.

Brenda
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Roberta Kessler
<rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

He looks great, Brenda!  So adorable!  It looks like he is getting better.  Do
you think the dizziness is beginning to subside?  Thanks for the video.  Keep
fighting, Frodo!

Love,
Roberta
On 12/03/2021 5:04 PM Brenda Bennett
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Frodo was super happy to sit propped up on the couch and get some fresh
parsley. He nearly jumped at me to get it!

Thought you all could use some cuteness.  Thanks for all your support and
advice.

-Brenda
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Roberta Kessler
<rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

The area looks more pink, and not red, Brenda.  You are doing a good job.  I am
sorry the butt bath was an ordeal, and just want to mention that I held Riley
on a football hold on his back and let the tepid water only run on the
necessary area to be cleaned.  I just mentioned it in case you have a mess to
clean that is difficult to do with wipes.

He remains in my prayers.  Keep us posted.

Love,
Roberta
On 12/03/2021 12:36 PM Brenda Bennett
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Here’s pic of his situation this morning.

You can see at the bottom of the photo near his foot where the fur was wet. I
don’t know if the diaper wasn’t on right or is too big or if it was when he
started peeing as I was taking it off. At least it was a different area and the
skin seemed okay

It’s better overall, you can’t see but I see a couple small (like smaller than
a pencil eraser) spots that are red and where the scabs or whatever came off
with the washcloth on Wednesday (I thought it was cornstarch clumps but guess
not).   Also there is redness in the fur line along the perimeter of the bald
area. I put SDD ointment on but need to trim the fur there somehow, comb it,
clean it and more ointment later. Maybe my brand new little eyebrow battery
operated shaver would trim it. I d on’t want to do a whole butt bath that was
such an ordeal and I think made it worse and was so hard to get the fur dry.
and he’s not got poop in it since I started  diapers at night.

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-Brenda
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Janet G
<wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Thanks for letting us know Brenda. Oh Micah use to pull his off. It was so hard
keeping on because he had no back feet which was quite a challenge.

Love Janet
On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:30 AM Brenda Bennett
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I’ve only been using the SDD so far until the redness is gone. Then I was doing
to try Ad ointment no zinc formula.

His diaper fell off last night and when i checked on him kn the middle of the
night he was wet. I was so upset! His fur was wet but the bedding wasn’t soaked
so i don’t know how he got wet. So I took a towel and lightly pressed against
the bare skin areas, blotted the fur that was wet, then rubbed some cornstarch
into the wet fur and massaged it until it was fully dry. I hope it didn’t get
stuck in any remaining SDD ointment that may have got rubbed into the fur. I
didn’t feel like the fur was sticky so I’m hoping it’s all good. Then I put a
new diaper on him and it’s still on. I slept in late I was so tired. Hoping
he’s dry under his diaper. I’ll check it out soon and send a pic and update to
everyone. .

-Brenda
Sent from my iPhone
--

Janet

"Whoever saves a single life, it is as if he had saved the whole world"

References:
- [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
  - From: Roberta Kessler
- [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
  - From: Brenda Bennett

[naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo

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