No...of course not....you get a circular reference...if the text is in A1, the formula can't also be in A1 If you want the text in A1 to be all in caps, you would have to put =UPPER(A1) in a different cell, then copy/paste that back to A1. Sorry...Like I said, Excel doesn't have the shortcuts Word has, cuz it's not meant for text editing, like Word is. Linda F. Johnson, M.A., MOS Linda's Computer Stop http://personal-computer-tutor.com Free e-Books, Newsletter, and tutorials -----Original Message----- From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pam Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:45 PM To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mso] Re: Upper and Lower Case Ah well, didn't work afterall. It seems I can't enter a formula in a cell after I've entered a value in it. =( But thank you anyway! Pam ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************