Bede, The valves and piston rings/seals are the only areas that can cause this sort of problem. I hope you find it quickly, and it's an easy fix. Cheers, Phill. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bede@xxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Valve Problem > Thanks all for your responses on this. > > I put the engine up on blocks and got the boiler up to working pressure > on air. When I open the reg, the air whooshes out the blast pipe, BUT, > the wheels do spin feebly about 10 or 15 revs before the pressure dies. > > So maybe the valves are seating and it's something else? Or one valve > is unseated and the other is doing the work? or could this be piston > ring issues? That would be more incremental it seems, and this problem > occurred all at once. > > Any further thoughts as to what to look for as I begin to strip the loco > down? > > Thanks as always, > > Bede > > > > On 5/26/2009, "bede@xxxxxxx" <bede@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>Hi All, >> >>Looking for help troubleshooting my Martin Evans' "Conway", 3.5" >>gauge narrow gauge 0-4-0. >> >>Tried to steam the loco over the weekend and it raised steam ok to >>working pressure (80psi), but when I opened the regulator/throttle, the >>steam just whooshed directly up the blast pipe, no power to the >>cylinders at all in either direction, tried pushing the loco back and >>forth, but no luck. >> >>I have to admit that I did an idiot thing- the smokebox was full of >>cinders and ash and my steaming buddy and I took the lazy way out and >>tipped the whole engine upright to dump the debris out. I'm thinking >>now that this somehow caused one or both valves to become unseated which >>resulted in the steam just going straight out the exhaust port. This >>loco has outside cylinders with the steam chests inside the frames, >>Stephenson gear with the slide/D valves vertical against the port faces. >> But I can't imagine the valves coming away that easily, esp. as >>they're vertical... >> >>Any suggestions on what steps to take to remedy this, I really hope I >>don't have to strip the loco down... >> >>Thanks, >>Bede in breezy Brooklyn >>MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >> >>To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >>modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >>line. >> > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.46/2142 - Release Date: 05/29/09 17:53:00 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.