Not at all Possum Muncher, you drill through the empty spaces, not the rollers! On 23/05/2013 7:08 AM, Jesse wrote: > Look Kangaroo lover, but it seems to me that the hardened chain would > dull most any drill including solid carbide. > > Jesse > >> Pay attention Unk! The chain is used as a spacing jig on curved surfaces >> for laying out rivet holes or whatever! >> >> On 23/05/2013 6:55 AM, Jesse wrote: >> >>> For why are we wanting to drill this type chain. FWIW, I built a nice >>> chemical dip vat for treating lumber against mold and insect damage. The >>> vat would hold a large pack of lumber , automatically lower it into the >>> chemicals and after a few minutes raise the pack up to allow excess >>> chemical to drain off. After about a year or so of flawless operation, >>> the chain broke. I checked with chain manufacturer and was told that the >>> chemicals would penetrate the hardened steel chain links and make them >>> brittle. The chemicals would have no effect on soft iron chain >>> according to the chain company, but they did not make multiple link >>> chain except for the hardened type. The chain, BTW was about six links >>> wide and was the type used on some fork lift trucks. >>> >>> >>>> Yes, though I would suggest experimenting might be the key word: >>>> >>>> 1) If you have a piece of hardened steel chain across a piece of brass >>>> sheet - I reckon you'd end up with some marks on the brass after you've >>>> vibrated the chain for a couple or hours drilling holes, though I might be >>>> wrong...depends on your requirements for the finish of the metal maybe. >>>> From memory, aircraft gurus don't usually like marks on their panels as >>>> the lead to cracks. >>>> >>>> 2) Does the original concept require the surface to be curved in order to >>>> hold the chain taught against it, else it will keep being 'lifted up' by >>>> the flutes of the drill...which would suggest it only good for aircraft >>>> work, or for our work on occasionally curved surface, like the smokebox. >>>> (Compare with a tightrope for example - never completely horizontal, it >>>> always dips to the point where the acrobat is stood...if it were >>>> completely horizontal, it can carry no vertical, or in our case clamping, >>>> load). >>>> >>>> It does look interesting, but I wonder if the above reasons are why >>>> it isn't a complace fixture, as it rules it out for most work? >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> >>>> Rich. >>>> >>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013, Terry Lane wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Can't see why not - might be worth a bit of experimenting. >>>>> >>>>> On 20/05/2013 9:10 PM, Clifton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jerry and All, >>>>>> >>>>>> It's an interesting concept. I wonder if it could be adapted to modeling >>>>>> by >>>>>> using a smaller chain gauge? >>>>>> >>>>>> Clif >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Jerome Kimberlin"<kimberln@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To:<modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:04 AM >>>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Renold jig chain >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't suppose these are being made today since CNC can do the job, but >>>>>>> has anyone ever seen one of these drilling jigs? >>>>>>> http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1941/1941%20-%202010.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems like it would be useful for model engineers who like those little >>>>>>> pimples on tenders, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JerryK >>>>>>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >>>>>>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the >>>>>>> subject >>>>>>> line. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >>>>>> >>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >>>>>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the >>>>>> subject line. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >>>>> >>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >>>>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >>>>> line. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >>>> >>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >>>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >>>> line. >>>> >>>> >>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >>> >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >>> line. >>> >>> >>> >> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >> line. >> > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. 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