I have found the if you are just smelting aluminium you can build a muffle of normal clay bricks and just pack the gaps with mud .Use an old iron saucepan as a crucible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Logan" <boblogan@xxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Melting Down - Smelting How far are you from a coal mine? the overburden above the coal seam, is usually a good fire clay. Bob L. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Lane" <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:11 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Melting Down - Smelting > No Al, not much clay around here at all. Limestone, talc, ironstone, but no > clay. > > > > > > No suitable Clay in the banks of that creek that flows > > through your rancho?? > > > > Al Messer > > --- Terry Lane <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Just sent you a couple - I'll try & get a couple of > > > the lil gas bottle jobby > > > later today > > > > > > Well I did have to (shudder) buy the refractory. > > > Finally tracked it down > > > locally at a potter's supply house, who have all > > > sorts of good things for > > > establishing a foundry. Bentonite for making > > > greensand, fireclay, and I also > > > (wince) bought some porcelain clay to experiment > > > with making crucibles. AND > > > the nice lady in charge over there has offered to > > > fire the crucibles for me > > > when I get 'em made. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel > > > > > > > > Thanks, would love a pic or two. > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > PS Why am I not surprised you didn't buy an off > > > the shelf jobbie? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Terry Lane" <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:07 PM > > > > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Melting Down - Smelting > > > > > > > > > > > > I've recenjtly built two furnaces Peter, one is > > > based on a section of 12" > > > > diameter water heater barrel - 15" high with a 2 > > > 1/2" lining of castable > > > > refractory, it works real well on charcoal and (at > > > a pinch) wood chips. > > > The > > > > second is based on a 5lb gas bottle - similar > > > construction but with the > > > > 'blow hole' a bit higher up for gas firing - > > > haven't really fired it yet, > > > > other than to cure the refractory & 'tune' the gas > > > burner. > > > > > > > > For reclaming scrap and some aluminium work I > > > still use the forge (wheel > > > rim > > > > welded to a 12 gal drum with air system > > > underneath) - air supply for both > > > > solid fuel furnaces, is an Electrolux vacuum > > > cleaner with the hgose > > > attached > > > > to the 'blow side' > > > > > > > > I'll send you a pic or two if you like > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Peter J. Cathcart" > > > <peter.cathcart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:58 AM > > > > Subject: [modeleng] Melting Down - Smelting > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel and all > > > > > > > > > > Your comment below struck a cord. I just missed > > > a small smelter on eBay > > > > > yesterday (sorry Tel, nearly spent money). I > > > have wanted a small > > > smelting > > > > > device for some time. Lead, copper and brass > > > probably figure most in > > > > terms > > > > > of what I would use it for. Trying to find a > > > suitable device however is > > > > not > > > > > so easy. > > > > > > > > > > So how does everyone out there deal with > > > smelting? What devices are > > > > > available? 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