Tel and all Your comment below struck a cord. I just missed a small smelter on eBay yesterday (sorry Tel, nearly spent money). I have wanted a small smelting device for some time. Lead, copper and brass probably figure most in terms of what I would use it for. Trying to find a suitable device however is not so easy. So how does everyone out there deal with smelting? What devices are available? What problems arise? Peter -------- You should get a few bits n pieces worth saving and a bit of aluminium for melting down, MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.