Hi All, At last got round to trying the Irish Loctite with an all steel joint. That didn't go well. Using the same steel rod but with a 1" square bit of steel out of the junk box drilled 6mm ,after 24 hours to set I just showed it the spanner and the joint broke. Repeated the test with only 4 hours setting time and once again it easily broke. They don't seem to make it like they used too. Clif MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.