> Wonder what the engines are? > A model of 18000 seems an ideal use for them. > Alan The engines will almost certainly be commercial units. The two most popular are Jet Cat http://www.jetlinemodels.co.uk/turbines/Turbines.html and Wren Turbines http://wrenturbines.co.uk/ The guy who flew across the Channel recently appeared to be using Jet Cats Barrie MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.