John, I would have thought so too, but Tel swears he gave up the adult liquids many years ago. Maybe he fell orf the wagon??? He is working on a model of the Bernay steam engine and that one has almost driven me to drink so I speak from experience. Jesse > Jesse, > > Tel must be suffering from hangover. It is 14:05 Tuesday 2nd January. > > John MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.