Barrie, The carbon that is coating the tubes is something that it is wise to remove, as it is a great insulator. There are 2 ways to remove it. The first, and easiest but not always reliable, is to use products like "Killsoot", which are for removing soot from fireplaces and chimneys. They don't always work first time round, so 2 or 3 packets are required, and the boiler needs to be up to operating temp. The second is with a brush. I use a hard steel brush that is 0.02" under the ID of my tubes, on a long rod and powered by my electric drill. The brush must be run slow. Really slow. And gently, so as to slowly break away the carbon. I always rod (brush) my tubes by hand, and only when the hard carbon starts to tighten the hole, do I get out the drill. And then it's gentle gentle....... Cheers, Phill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Purslow" <bpduo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Model Engineering List" <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: [modeleng] Boiler blues > I am restoring a 5" Duchess the boiler of which is in generally good condition. However the flue tubes, which are about 15/16 ins. I.D., are coated internally with a layer of hard, black carbon. I have given it the usual flue brush treatment which produced clouds of black dust but a hard layer about 1/64 ins. thick remains. > I have tried fitting the flue brush into an electric drill and giving the tubes a few minutes of rotary action to little effect. I am wary about trying anything more aggressive as I have heard quotes of over £2000 for a replacement boiler. > Any ideas anyone? > Barrie Purslow > Warrington UK > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.