[minima] Re: kerchucking noise in PTT

  • From: David Fannin <dfannin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "minima@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <minima@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 13:22:13 -0800

Makes sense.   Seems like good use for a  2N7000.

Do I need any resistors between the Drain or Source and Ground, or can I
just wire to provide a short to ground when switched on? Do I need R2 in
the attached?

Dave

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 12:41 PM, allison <ajp166@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  On 01/02/2015 03:23 PM, David Fannin wrote:
>
>  On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:51 AM, allison <ajp166@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  On 01/02/2015 02:38 PM, David Fannin wrote:
>>
>> Ok, an update , but no solution yet.
>>
>>  Here's what I've done so far:
>>
>>  1) changed the mic preamp C3 cap from 10uf to 1uf. (from my schematic,
>> I'm using a NE5534 op amp mic preamp) - no change
>>
>>   Does not match any schematic I have.  You need to put up a AS BUILT
>> schematic.
>>
>
>  Schematic for my mic preamp was posted earlier in this thread.
>
>>
>> What I'd asked was to disable the output of the mic preamp and see if the
>> TX/RX pop remained.
>> That was what I'd meant by pulling C48 (V2 schematic).
>>
>
>  I disconnected both mic pre-amp and cw oscillator , so I cut the leads
> of C48 and C47. That was #2.
>
>>
>>
>>  2) disconnected the mic pre-amp and cw oscillator from the audio
>> pre-amp input - no change.
>>
>>  3) replaced the relay - no change
>>
>>   I cannot imagine how the relay could be at fault.
>>
>
>  Someone suggested this, and I had used a socket for the relay and had an
> extra one, so it was about 15 seconds of work to rule this out.
>
>>
>> However when I do a DC switched TR circuit I usually return the alternate
>> lead to ground so that
>> when I go TX all the RX+ points are forced to ground and same from going
>> to RX wher all the
>> TX+ points are grounded.  It can be done with realy or my preference a
>> few transistors.
>>
>
>  Some progress based on this idea. On the BiDi amplifier, I disconnected
> the 12v power input to the TX side of the BiDi amplifer (R23) , but left
> the 12v input to the RX side (R65) .   Both sides are switched by the
> relay.   The popping sound went away ( the sound is only  going from TX to
> RX, not RX to TX.).    So with the current V2 circuit, when +12v/Xmit/R23
> is deactivated, that point is isolated, not grounded.
>
>
>
> Yes, the logic is if caps are allowed to discharge into the circuit they
> tend to take a while.
> So if you take R23 to ground on RX it may dump the remaining voltage in
> the circuit.
> A simple transistor switch using the RX+ Voltage to switch on a transistor
> on from R23
> to ground might be enough.  Also the .1 caps at the input and output of
> the TX IFamp
> are likely larger than needed try .01.
>
>
> Allison/KB1GMX
>
>

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