[MoGeo] Re: Hello and new issues..
- From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:49:30 -0500
I personally like micros for what they offer. I hate micros that are 500
feet into the woods. I love clever hiden micros that take time and thought
to find. I think what we should look at, and I know some will disagree, is a
cache renewal process for the state. I think it would be really cool if
caches were archived after a certain number of finds or time. That would
allow others to hide with a new flavor in some of the oversaturated areas.
Lately, we have heard about trash in caches. I think that that is a sure
sign of caches becoming stale. I find old ones that the containers are musty
and/or moldy, are in bad condition and usually have many wet and useless
items. I started placing cache repair kits out there in hopes people will
take them with and use them when needed. Today, I did a cache that I decided
to restock. It was in Farmington and I took a travel bug and left several
brand new, still in the box items. My cost was a little over 3$ and I will
watch this cache and see what was traded for these items.
Items I left included: An FM radio with headphones, A bicycle repair kit and
a new Hot Wheels car with a Racing game CD. All of these items were new in
the box. I will be curious to see if someone takes a radio and leaves
stickers.
If we cannot afford to restock caches as we go, then perhaps, we should
recycle the caches.
Another thought to increase the quality of caching would be to implement
local rules. I see no reason why we can't adopt some type of guidelines and
fill in the gray areas. It would make it easier if we said that local
governing rules apply to our home caching area. In other words, we set the
guidlines in placing and maintaining a cache. We could still be within the
GC guidelines but build upon it. There would be no way to enforce it
however. It would simply be guidelines.
Recycling micros should be a process we look at first. It would be nice to
get rid of some really easy micros and some stale ones so we may use the .1
of real estate for something fresh..
These are just some thoughts.. I will let others chime in and take a seat..
Mike
The Brawny Bear
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn" <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <mga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:39 PM
Subject: [MoGeo] Re: Hello and new issues..
> I thought I would just pop in and say Howdy to the new folks. Among us
> are representatives from each geocaching group in the state of Mo., and a
> big-wig or two from other states, a few land managers, a "high mileage"
> cacher or two, and I guess me. What a bunch!
>
> Anyway, we here a lot about the declining quality of geocaching
> lately. Not exactly sure what that means for each area but in STL, I
think
> that the proliferation of micro caches placed where a good traditional
> cache could be is starting to get too me. There no rules against them so
> they keep getting approved but do y'all think it would be proper to ask
the
> hider if it would be possible to hide a regular 'ole cache? Does it even
> matter? Most seasoned cachers dont trade much anymore but the new folks
> and the kids sure like to. I would not like to see STL go the way of say,
> Nashville with sooo many micros. Just a thought, not sure what we can do
> about it, seems to be the will of the cachers at this point in time.
>
> Any other things worth thinking about with this "quality of caching"
thing?
>
> Discuss??
>
> glenn
>
>
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mailto:Glenn@xxxxxxxxxx>Glenn
> >To: <mailto:MGA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>MGA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:58 PM
> >Subject: [MoGeo] Hello
> >
> >Since we are starting to get a few listers here now I would like to say
HI
> >and welcome to everyone that is here.
> >
> >The propose of this list is mainly to discuss larger statewide types of
> >geocaching issues.
> >
> >Some things I have been interested in are...
> > * Viewpoints of the land managers about their current land use plans
> > and how geocaching fits into their plans.
> > * How do park systems look at new activities like geocaching when
they
> > start thinking about officially recognizing an activity.
> > * How geocaching is affecting their managed areas.
> > * What the geocaching community can do to improve the state of
affairs
> > here.
> >Since this is a very small group at this time (just a few actually), I
> >think we can be a little looser with the format.
> >
> >I guess by now most all of us have seen the Missouri Geocachers Assoc.
> >website. http://www.MoGeo.com I think it is going to be an important
> >document in the future. I do not plan for it to compete with any of the
> >fine local websites but rather enhance some of the information and
provide
> >a single place where land managers and other officials can go to get the
> >one-stop scoop on what is going on in Missouri.
> >
> >I can imagine that if I were new to the area or was trying to do a little
> >digging on geocaching here it was a little confusing. We have a few local
> >groups but no one each with a site or two but no place for anyone to
> >get some general information.
> >
> >The site lists the regions that have regulations and links to those
> >regs. As more and more land managers get into thinking about geocaching
> >on their lands, I think this will be a valuable resource for them as well
> >as the geocacher looking to place a cache.
> >
> >The Missouri Geocachers site also lists how to get in contact with the
> >states local groups. There is also a bit of explanation of the Cache
> >Rescue program. It has already been used to save a few caches and to
> >retrieve an abandoned cache.
> >
> >If there is anything that anyone would like to see there drop me a note.
> >
> >I know that the link to the jeff city regs page quit working again. That
> >is a funny one. It works for a while then it quits. I replace it with the
> >identical link and it worked for a while then quit working . I'll keep
> >working on it. Ooops, i tried it just now... and it works
> >again!! Funny stuff this internet is. :-)
> >
> >Thanks for tuning in, I hope we can make some sort of difference here.
> >
> >Glenn
> >----------------
> >Glenn
>
> ---------------------
> Glenn
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