[macvoiceover] Re: crashing programs

  • From: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:39:57 -0700

Hey Phil,

No worries!  You should have seen all the questions I sent to the list before 
buying my Mac.  And everyone was great about it.  From what you say you wish to 
do, I'm sure the Mac will be fine.  In a lot of ways it's fun to use the Mac, 
but there are still a few annoyances, like selecting text on a web page that 
hopefully will be worked out soon.

I'm not sorry I bought a Mac, but would not be able to get by without my old 
Windows machine to do the things the Mac can't do yet.

Cheers,

Russell
On 2009-11-27, at 2:17 PM, Phil Stephenson wrote:

> Hi Krysten and all who've replied on this thread,
> 
> I in no way was wanting to turn it into a mac versus Windows debate as I do
> know they are different and do different things however the thing for me is
> I don't want to have to run 2 systems.  I would still use windows at work as
> I need this for using he many Office apps and other more specialist stuff
> but at home I want to do email, surf the web, read and produce basic text
> docs as well as manage music, write blogs and stay in touch with friends and
> family via social networking sites and communication programs.
> 
> Ok I'll leave this topic alone now but my questions / concerns were honest
> and coming from a genuine point of enquiry.
> 
> Cheers all,
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kristyn Leigh
> Sent: 27 November 2009 15:32
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: crashing programs
> 
> I have been following this list for a couple months.  I have found links to
> helpful resources and tips about various programs and VoiceOver commands.
> The discussion about problems has not discouraged me from buying a Mac. I
> have seen huge improvements in accessibility since Tiger. Of course I wish
> Office was accessible on the Mac with VoiceOver, but I'm not going to let
> that stop me from using a Mac for applications which are accessible.  I will
> keep my Windows XP machine for programs that don't run on a Mac. I will
> never pay for another screen reader SMA.  
> 
> I am tired of the arguments about whether Mac is better than Windows. I have
> accepted the fact that they are different, and I will try to use both for
> the features I need.  
> 
> Kristyn  
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Stephenson
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 3:44 PM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: crashing programs
> 
>       Hi,
> 
> Jumping in on this thread to say I've actually begun to have second thoughts
> myself about switching to a Mac in view of recent traffic about problems
> with Mail, Safari etc.  I know even Macs aren't perfect and I have a number
> of reasons for being unhappy with Windows however I have been watching this
> list for a good few weeks now and have been rather disconcerted by the
> number of issues people seem to be having with VO and their Macs.
> 
> As I say I was (an maybe still am) very close to switching and was in fact
> just looking up specs and prices yesterday and and planning on buying
> post-Christmas however I have to say I am now having real second
> thoughts....sad really as I've been toying with switching for over 3 years
> now and I did think it was at a point where it made more sense than ever but
> for the additional outlay of buying a MAC I am hoping to get a robust system
> that doesn't crash like my Windows kit and where I can at least use the
> standard mac apps such as Mail, Safari and Text Edit without any problems
> other than the learning curve I know I will have to face.
> 
> So I'm rather confused and disillusioned, sorry folks but I'm telling it how
> I see it, I'm not saying Macs are bad and Windows machines are better rather
> that I don't think a Mac is as reliable or robust a solution as I thought it
> would be.
> 
> Your comments appreciated,
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of carlene knight
> Sent: 26 November 2009 19:53
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] crashing programs
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I am really getting discouraged as my system is not acting as I always heard
> a Mac should.  In fact it's getting to the point where I crash programs on a
> daily basis.  Some people are having trouble with Safari but for me it's the
> other programs.  Last night I crashed ITunes and Mail both at the same time
> in fact.  It's intermittent.  I think it might have something to do with VO
> and Snow leopard as my sighted husband who doesn't use VO has no problems.
> Has anybody else had trouble with programs crashing on a daily basis?
> thanks.>
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