[macvoiceover] Re: crashing programs
- From: carlene knight <cknight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:27:06 -0800
At least if I do reinstall Snow Leopard, it won't be near as complicated. I
had Windows for nearly 10 years, and would never attempt to reinstall XP, or
whatever version of Windows I had. That was my husband's territory and he
would moan and groan about doing it, though he is a computer whiz. It's nice
that there is a way of reinstalling Snow Leopard without wiping my drive clean
first.
On Nov 27, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Laura wrote:
> I've only had the Mac for a couple months, but the thing I love most about it
> is how robust it is. I mean, it's not that I've never had a program freeze up
> or crash, and honestly, I doubt the technology system exists that would give
> you that kind of performance. But when something goes wrong on a Mac, in my
> experience, it's much better than Windows. One application failure doesn't
> screw up the rest of the system; it doesn't cause Voiceover to stop speaking.
> If a programme crashes, the dialogue appears almost instantaneously asking
> if you'd like to restart the application, and the whole thing is very
> painless.
>
> That said, I think Russell's right, and it really does depend what you want
> it for. There are certain applications, like iTunes and VLC, where
> accessibility is much, much better than on Windows, but my feeling right now
> is that, for most things, VO offers really good accessibility in broad terms,
> but when you start getting into the finer details or more complex areas, JAWS
> (or maybe Window Eyes, but I never used that) is still probably better.
> That's not a criticism really. Given how long Voiceover's been around,
> compared with how long JAWS has, it's only logical that JAWS would be further
> ahead, and I think Apple have done a really awesome job in the time they've
> had. It's also worth noting that the improvements from Tiger to Leopard were
> substantial, as were the ones from Leopard to Snow Leopard, so I'm confident
> that Apple really are committed to providing the best accessibility solution
> they can.
>
> On top of that, Voiceover seems to be gaining in popularity as a solution for
> users with visual impairments, and I think the more that happens, the more
> likely it is that blindness specific apps, like scanning programmes, will
> become more widely available, and also that at least major developers will
> work to build in accessibility. I'm no Microsoft fan, but I will be
> surprised--at least a very little--if the next version of Office for the Mac
> isn't more accessible, and Firefox, allegedly, will be in the not too distant
> future.
>
> Which, um, is my very long way of saying that I don't regret buying the Mac,
> that there are advantages that aren't actually accessibility related, and
> that I think it has enormous potential, but that it's not perfect, and it
> might not take care of all your accessibility needs right now.
>
> On 26 Nov 2009, at 20:44, Phil Stephenson wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Jumping in on this thread to say I've actually begun to have second thoughts
>> myself about switching to a Mac in view of recent traffic about problems
>> with Mail, Safari etc. I know even Macs aren't perfect and I have a number
>> of reasons for being unhappy with Windows however I have been watching this
>> list for a good few weeks now and have been rather disconcerted by the
>> number of issues people seem to be having with VO and their Macs.
>>
>> As I say I was (an maybe still am) very close to switching and was in fact
>> just looking up specs and prices yesterday and and planning on buying
>> post-Christmas however I have to say I am now having real second
>> thoughts....sad really as I've been toying with switching for over 3 years
>> now and I did think it was at a point where it made more sense than ever but
>> for the additional outlay of buying a MAC I am hoping to get a robust system
>> that doesn't crash like my Windows kit and where I can at least use the
>> standard mac apps such as Mail, Safari and Text Edit without any problems
>> other than the learning curve I know I will have to face.
>>
>> So I'm rather confused and disillusioned, sorry folks but I'm telling it how
>> I see it, I'm not saying Macs are bad and Windows machines are better rather
>> that I don't think a Mac is as reliable or robust a solution as I thought it
>> would be.
>>
>> Your comments appreciated,
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of carlene knight
>> Sent: 26 November 2009 19:53
>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] crashing programs
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I am really getting discouraged as my system is not acting as I always heard
>> a Mac should. In fact it's getting to the point where I crash programs on a
>> daily basis. Some people are having trouble with Safari but for me it's the
>> other programs. Last night I crashed ITunes and Mail both at the same time
>> in fact. It's intermittent. I think it might have something to do with VO
>> and Snow leopard as my sighted husband who doesn't use VO has no problems.
>> Has anybody else had trouble with programs crashing on a daily basis?
>> thanks.>
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