[macvoiceover] Re: VO enter: select mode

  • From: covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 19:37:01 -0500

You do vo-enter, move the voiceover cursor to select the text and do
vo-enter again to end the selection and then copy to clipboard with
command-c.

David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> VO enter activates and deactivates select mode.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 7 Dec 2013, at 13:04, Tuscia-Falconer <falconer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > Would you please repeat how to use this procedure, it is getting 
> > interesting.
> > 
> > TF
> > 
> > On 7/12/2013, at 12:48 pm, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > And yet, sighted people use the mouse much more frequently than they use 
> > the selection arrow key commands. The arrow keys may even be quicker and 
> > more precise, but the mouse mins hands down.
> > 
> > The answer is, because the mouse is easier. Using the mouse, it is not 
> > necessary for the sighted person to remember as many commands. 
> > 
> > My intention in asking the question wasn't to be flippant, it was to 
> > encourage thought outside one's comfort zone. It is the type of question I 
> > am always asking myself.
> > 
> > Here is how I discovered this mode. I was writing and editing a document 
> > which was due in a few hours. I needed to move a block of text. I tried 
> > selecting some of the text and started having difficulty finding the 
> > correct command. I started trying random combinations when I stumbled 
> > across it. Once activated, the mouse sound was highlighting whichever text 
> > I was having VO read, and I was not needing to include shift. It did not 
> > matter which arrow combinations I pressed, selection was working very 
> > nicely. So, I quickly selected my block of text and turned select mode off. 
> > The text cut and pasted properly. Suddenly, I do not need to remember 
> > changed selection commands. All I need to do is turn select mode on and use 
> > standard navigation commands, then turn select mode off. It does not matter 
> > if the process might be a little slower, I have less commands to remember, 
> > and I cannot accidentally release the shift key requiring starting over. 
> > Finally, if it works with touchpad commander, I won't even need to touch 
> > the keyboard after activating the mode until I wish to deactivate it. 
> > 
> > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> > Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
> > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On 7 Dec 2013, at 10:03, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi David,
> >> 
> >> As a blind person using VO on the Mac? Not much that I can see.  I was 
> >> asking a serious question.  I really wanted to know what advantages you 
> >> found in using this method to see if I might find it useful in my own work 
> >> flow.  Not for nothing, your answer really didn’t explain the advantages 
> >> to me.  i find this to often be the case when people answer a question 
> >> with a question of their own.
> >> 
> >> JMO. 
> >> 
> >> thanks anyway though.
> >> 
> >> Ricardo Walker
> >> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> >> www.appletothecore.info
> >> 
> >>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:44 PM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> What advantage does using the mouse have over using shift plus the arrow 
> >>> keys?
> >>> 
> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> >>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
> >>>> On 7 Dec 2013, at 4:54, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> 
> >>>> What advantage if any does this have over using shift plus the arrow 
> >>>> keys to select stuff?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ricardo Walker
> >>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> >>>> www.appletothecore.info
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:17 AM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thus far, I have only tried this inside documents. Press VO enter and 
> >>>>> voiceover says select. Now, pressing VO arrow keys causes the mouse 
> >>>>> selector to move in the appropriate direction and highlight text as it 
> >>>>> goes. Pressing the opposite arrow causes on highlighting of text. When 
> >>>>> the desire text has been selected, pressVO Inter again to stop 
> >>>>> selection mode. In other words, it now works like that touch pad/mouse 
> >>>>> for sighted people. I really like it.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> >>>>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone>
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