You do vo-enter, move the voiceover cursor to select the text and do vo-enter again to end the selection and then copy to clipboard with command-c. David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > VO enter activates and deactivates select mode. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 7 Dec 2013, at 13:04, Tuscia-Falconer <falconer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Would you please repeat how to use this procedure, it is getting > > interesting. > > > > TF > > > > On 7/12/2013, at 12:48 pm, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > And yet, sighted people use the mouse much more frequently than they use > > the selection arrow key commands. The arrow keys may even be quicker and > > more precise, but the mouse mins hands down. > > > > The answer is, because the mouse is easier. Using the mouse, it is not > > necessary for the sighted person to remember as many commands. > > > > My intention in asking the question wasn't to be flippant, it was to > > encourage thought outside one's comfort zone. It is the type of question I > > am always asking myself. > > > > Here is how I discovered this mode. I was writing and editing a document > > which was due in a few hours. I needed to move a block of text. I tried > > selecting some of the text and started having difficulty finding the > > correct command. I started trying random combinations when I stumbled > > across it. Once activated, the mouse sound was highlighting whichever text > > I was having VO read, and I was not needing to include shift. It did not > > matter which arrow combinations I pressed, selection was working very > > nicely. So, I quickly selected my block of text and turned select mode off. > > The text cut and pasted properly. Suddenly, I do not need to remember > > changed selection commands. All I need to do is turn select mode on and use > > standard navigation commands, then turn select mode off. It does not matter > > if the process might be a little slower, I have less commands to remember, > > and I cannot accidentally release the shift key requiring starting over. > > Finally, if it works with touchpad commander, I won't even need to touch > > the keyboard after activating the mode until I wish to deactivate it. > > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > > Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx > > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 7 Dec 2013, at 10:03, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Hi David, > >> > >> As a blind person using VO on the Mac? Not much that I can see. I was > >> asking a serious question. I really wanted to know what advantages you > >> found in using this method to see if I might find it useful in my own work > >> flow. Not for nothing, your answer really didn’t explain the advantages > >> to me. i find this to often be the case when people answer a question > >> with a question of their own. > >> > >> JMO. > >> > >> thanks anyway though. > >> > >> Ricardo Walker > >> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Twitter:@apple2thecore > >> www.appletothecore.info > >> > >>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:44 PM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> What advantage does using the mouse have over using shift plus the arrow > >>> keys? > >>> > >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > >>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx > >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>> On 7 Dec 2013, at 4:54, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> What advantage if any does this have over using shift plus the arrow > >>>> keys to select stuff? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> Ricardo Walker > >>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore > >>>> www.appletothecore.info > >>>> > >>>>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:17 AM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Thus far, I have only tried this inside documents. Press VO enter and > >>>>> voiceover says select. Now, pressing VO arrow keys causes the mouse > >>>>> selector to move in the appropriate direction and highlight text as it > >>>>> goes. Pressing the opposite arrow causes on highlighting of text. When > >>>>> the desire text has been selected, pressVO Inter again to stop > >>>>> selection mode. In other words, it now works like that touch pad/mouse > >>>>> for sighted people. 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