[macvoiceover] Re: VO enter: select mode
- From: Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Macvoiceover list list <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 21:22:44 -0500
Hi,
Lol,
Oh. Ok. I assure you, this was not outside my comfort zone. I was looking for
your opinion on the use of the feature, and an example of where this feature is
best employed. You certainly answered my questions here. It sounds pretty
cool. I will definitely keep this in mind when an opportunity arises to use
this.
Thanks.
Ricardo Walker
ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Dec 6, 2013, at 6:48 PM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> And yet, sighted people use the mouse much more frequently than they use the
> selection arrow key commands. The arrow keys may even be quicker and more
> precise, but the mouse mins hands down.
>
> The answer is, because the mouse is easier. Using the mouse, it is not
> necessary for the sighted person to remember as many commands.
>
> My intention in asking the question wasn't to be flippant, it was to
> encourage thought outside one's comfort zone. It is the type of question I am
> always asking myself.
>
> Here is how I discovered this mode. I was writing and editing a document
> which was due in a few hours. I needed to move a block of text. I tried
> selecting some of the text and started having difficulty finding the correct
> command. I started trying random combinations when I stumbled across it. Once
> activated, the mouse sound was highlighting whichever text I was having VO
> read, and I was not needing to include shift. It did not matter which arrow
> combinations I pressed, selection was working very nicely. So, I quickly
> selected my block of text and turned select mode off. The text cut and pasted
> properly. Suddenly, I do not need to remember changed selection commands. All
> I need to do is turn select mode on and use standard navigation commands,
> then turn select mode off. It does not matter if the process might be a
> little slower, I have less commands to remember, and I cannot accidentally
> release the shift key requiring starting over. Finally, if it works with
> touchpad commander, I won't even need to touch the keyboard after activating
> the mode until I wish to deactivate it.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 7 Dec 2013, at 10:03, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> As a blind person using VO on the Mac? Not much that I can see. I was
>> asking a serious question. I really wanted to know what advantages you
>> found in using this method to see if I might find it useful in my own work
>> flow. Not for nothing, your answer really didn’t explain the advantages to
>> me. i find this to often be the case when people answer a question with a
>> question of their own.
>>
>> JMO.
>>
>> thanks anyway though.
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:44 PM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> What advantage does using the mouse have over using shift plus the arrow
>>> keys?
>>>
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 7 Dec 2013, at 4:54, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> What advantage if any does this have over using shift plus the arrow keys
>>>> to select stuff?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:17 AM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus far, I have only tried this inside documents. Press VO enter and
>>>>> voiceover says select. Now, pressing VO arrow keys causes the mouse
>>>>> selector to move in the appropriate direction and highlight text as it
>>>>> goes. Pressing the opposite arrow causes on highlighting of text. When
>>>>> the desire text has been selected, pressVO Inter again to stop selection
>>>>> mode. In other words, it now works like that touch pad/mouse for sighted
>>>>> people. I really like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone>
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