[macvoiceover] Re: VO enter: select mode
- From: David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:23:58 +1300
VO enter activates and deactivates select mode.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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> On 7 Dec 2013, at 13:04, Tuscia-Falconer <falconer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Would you please repeat how to use this procedure, it is getting interesting.
>
> TF
>
> On 7/12/2013, at 12:48 pm, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> And yet, sighted people use the mouse much more frequently than they use the
> selection arrow key commands. The arrow keys may even be quicker and more
> precise, but the mouse mins hands down.
>
> The answer is, because the mouse is easier. Using the mouse, it is not
> necessary for the sighted person to remember as many commands.
>
> My intention in asking the question wasn't to be flippant, it was to
> encourage thought outside one's comfort zone. It is the type of question I am
> always asking myself.
>
> Here is how I discovered this mode. I was writing and editing a document
> which was due in a few hours. I needed to move a block of text. I tried
> selecting some of the text and started having difficulty finding the correct
> command. I started trying random combinations when I stumbled across it. Once
> activated, the mouse sound was highlighting whichever text I was having VO
> read, and I was not needing to include shift. It did not matter which arrow
> combinations I pressed, selection was working very nicely. So, I quickly
> selected my block of text and turned select mode off. The text cut and pasted
> properly. Suddenly, I do not need to remember changed selection commands. All
> I need to do is turn select mode on and use standard navigation commands,
> then turn select mode off. It does not matter if the process might be a
> little slower, I have less commands to remember, and I cannot accidentally
> release the shift key requiring starting over. Finally, if it works with
> touchpad commander, I won't even need to touch the keyboard after activating
> the mode until I wish to deactivate it.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 7 Dec 2013, at 10:03, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> As a blind person using VO on the Mac? Not much that I can see. I was
>> asking a serious question. I really wanted to know what advantages you
>> found in using this method to see if I might find it useful in my own work
>> flow. Not for nothing, your answer really didn’t explain the advantages to
>> me. i find this to often be the case when people answer a question with a
>> question of their own.
>>
>> JMO.
>>
>> thanks anyway though.
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:44 PM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> What advantage does using the mouse have over using shift plus the arrow
>>> keys?
>>>
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 7 Dec 2013, at 4:54, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> What advantage if any does this have over using shift plus the arrow keys
>>>> to select stuff?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:17 AM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus far, I have only tried this inside documents. Press VO enter and
>>>>> voiceover says select. Now, pressing VO arrow keys causes the mouse
>>>>> selector to move in the appropriate direction and highlight text as it
>>>>> goes. Pressing the opposite arrow causes on highlighting of text. When
>>>>> the desire text has been selected, pressVO Inter again to stop selection
>>>>> mode. In other words, it now works like that touch pad/mouse for sighted
>>>>> people. I really like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone>
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