[macvoiceover] Re: Reading .pdf files
- From: Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 06:42:25 -0400
Yes, I found the same thing. I tried Cheryl’s method and it seems to work on
the documents I’ve used.
Thanks again CherylS.
SuzanneOn Oct 31, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Some files can be read that way. But with quite a few, when you interact you
> just get something about static text and that’s all you get unless you do the
> work-around.
>
> --
> Cheryl
>
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:51 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> So what exactly is the opening with Voiceover off doing?
>>
>> I did notice that I needed to do an extra level of interacting on PDFs in
>> Preview under Yosemite. I interact with the PDF content group, then interact
>> again and can read using quicknav set to navigation. I dont’ seem to need to
>> do ths second interaction to copy and paste though, so I’m not sure what’s
>> up.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, I was hoping it would also work with Skim, but it does not.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I also tried this with Skim but no luck.
>>>>
>>>> TF
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2014, at 1:24 pm, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is a work-around for this problem. But skim is not a solution. My
>>>> experience is that if you are having this problem with a pdf file in
>>>> Preview, you will also have it in Skim.
>>>>
>>>> But in Preview, here’s your work-around. Go to the file you want to read
>>>> in finder. Turn voiceover off and then do cmd-o to open the file. You
>>>> should now be able to interact and read the file. It appears that this
>>>> will continue to work for that file as long as you have Preview open but
>>>> if you quit Preview and/or restart your computer, you will have to do this
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> Also for files that are not picture/image files but that you can’t
>>>> initially read with Preview, it usually still works to do cmd-a to select
>>>> all in the file, copy with cmd-c, and then paste into Text Edit or some
>>>> other application.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, if you have not already done so, report this to
>>>> accessibility@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:accessibility@xxxxxxxxx> and never, never
>>>> assume that enough others have reported the problem and your input is
>>>> unnecessary.
>>>>
>>>> Hth.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheryl
>>>>
>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>>> thrown in the trash!
>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>>> And now, every day:
>>>> "This I call to mind,
>>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>>> never ceases;
>>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>>> they are new every morning;
>>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried Skim, though I did not necessarily get better results.
>>>>>
>>>>> TF
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2014, at 11:08 am, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that’s true. I’m concerned about .pdf files that I was able to read
>>>>> using Preview, but have not been able to read these same files since
>>>>> upgrading. there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason. Of course, no
>>>>> picture files can be read, but I’m sometimes having problems with files
>>>>> that I used to be able to read. Again, this is not a consistent problem.
>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Tuscia-Falconer
>>>>>> <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMO, not the operating system, I find not all pdf files are equal. I
>>>>>> think some are more like scans producing images, others have text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TF
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/11/2014, at 10:08 am, linnette whalen <linnettew@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:linnettew@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having the same problem! However, also having the same problem on
>>>>>> husband’s IMac and it does not have Yosemite.
>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I’ve found the same. However, I have had a few problems opening some
>>>>>>> .pdf files. Some are opening fine, some are not. Has anyone else
>>>>>>> experienced this? I have been working around this by opening them i
>>>>>>> other programs; but I used to like Preview, and I’d like to like it,
>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Tuscia-Falconer
>>>>>>>> <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:In general, I have found the same thing; however, I am having a
>>>>>>>> problem with opening some files in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A warning to Keith, you may not want to read this !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After two weeks of Yosemite on my 2008 iMac with 4Gb RAM I have no
>>>>>>>> issues that I would complain about.
>>>>>>>> The system feels rock solid, no bugs or lock ups with busy busy.
>>>>>>>> I would definitely suggest that 4Gb RAM may be a minimum. This is
>>>>>>>> because Yosemite uses RAM differently to earlier OS issues, though
>>>>>>>> apparently Mavericks was similar.
>>>>>>>> Because RAM has the fastest processing speed in the computer, the OS
>>>>>>>> is taking advantage of this and fills the RAM ready for use, this is
>>>>>>>> why a larger capacity is more beneficial.
>>>>>>>> With less RAM there is a longer delay when shifting between
>>>>>>>> Applications as as more data is being swapped, particularly if several
>>>>>>>> larger Apps are open at the same time.
>>>>>>>> So my bottom line is that I get a short delay when moving between Apps
>>>>>>>> but once there it is solid.
>>>>>>>> Yosemite leaves memory in RAM if there is space so that when you open
>>>>>>>> an App again it opens faster.
>>>>>>>> Yosemite has also been designed to accept all third party applications
>>>>>>>> that Mavericks accepted so you should not have any issues there.
>>>>>>>> Other than that it seems most of this upgrade is to do with its look
>>>>>>>> which doesn't apply to most of us, and it aligns the different Mac
>>>>>>>> platforms together so you can work on your iphone, ipad or imac at
>>>>>>>> the same time. This is through the Cloud. You are prompted to add this
>>>>>>>> when Yosemite runs for the first time.
>>>>>>>> You can also make phone calls through your desk or laptop so long as
>>>>>>>> your iphone is within bluetooth reach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TF
>>>>>>>>
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