[macvoiceover] Re: Reading .pdf files
- From: Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Mac Voiceover list Mac Voiceover List <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 21:51:59 -0600
So what exactly is the opening with Voiceover off doing?
I did notice that I needed to do an extra level of interacting on PDFs in
Preview under Yosemite. I interact with the PDF content group, then interact
again and can read using quicknav set to navigation. I dont’ seem to need to do
ths second interaction to copy and paste though, so I’m not sure what’s up.
Ian
> On Oct 31, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I was hoping it would also work with Skim, but it does not.
>
> --
> Cheryl
>
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> I also tried this with Skim but no luck.
>>
>> TF
>>
>> On 1/11/2014, at 1:24 pm, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> There is a work-around for this problem. But skim is not a solution. My
>> experience is that if you are having this problem with a pdf file in
>> Preview, you will also have it in Skim.
>>
>> But in Preview, here’s your work-around. Go to the file you want to read in
>> finder. Turn voiceover off and then do cmd-o to open the file. You should
>> now be able to interact and read the file. It appears that this will
>> continue to work for that file as long as you have Preview open but if you
>> quit Preview and/or restart your computer, you will have to do this again.
>>
>> Also for files that are not picture/image files but that you can’t initially
>> read with Preview, it usually still works to do cmd-a to select all in the
>> file, copy with cmd-c, and then paste into Text Edit or some other
>> application.
>>
>> Finally, if you have not already done so, report this to
>> accessibility@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:accessibility@xxxxxxxxx> and never, never
>> assume that enough others have reported the problem and your input is
>> unnecessary.
>>
>> Hth.
>>
>> --
>> Cheryl
>>
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you tried Skim, though I did not necessarily get better results.
>>>
>>> TF
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2014, at 11:08 am, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, that’s true. I’m concerned about .pdf files that I was able to read
>>> using Preview, but have not been able to read these same files since
>>> upgrading. there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason. Of course, no
>>> picture files can be read, but I’m sometimes having problems with files
>>> that I used to be able to read. Again, this is not a consistent problem.
>>> Suzanne
>>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IMO, not the operating system, I find not all pdf files are equal. I think
>>>> some are more like scans producing images, others have text.
>>>>
>>>> TF
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2014, at 10:08 am, linnette whalen <linnettew@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:linnettew@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Having the same problem! However, also having the same problem on
>>>> husband’s IMac and it does not have Yosemite.
>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I’ve found the same. However, I have had a few problems opening some
>>>>> .pdf files. Some are opening fine, some are not. Has anyone else
>>>>> experienced this? I have been working around this by opening them i
>>>>> other programs; but I used to like Preview, and I’d like to like it,
>>>>> again.
>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Tuscia-Falconer
>>>>>> <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>> wrote:In general, I have found the same thing; however, I am having a
>>>>>> problem with opening some files in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A warning to Keith, you may not want to read this !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After two weeks of Yosemite on my 2008 iMac with 4Gb RAM I have no
>>>>>> issues that I would complain about.
>>>>>> The system feels rock solid, no bugs or lock ups with busy busy.
>>>>>> I would definitely suggest that 4Gb RAM may be a minimum. This is
>>>>>> because Yosemite uses RAM differently to earlier OS issues, though
>>>>>> apparently Mavericks was similar.
>>>>>> Because RAM has the fastest processing speed in the computer, the OS is
>>>>>> taking advantage of this and fills the RAM ready for use, this is why a
>>>>>> larger capacity is more beneficial.
>>>>>> With less RAM there is a longer delay when shifting between Applications
>>>>>> as as more data is being swapped, particularly if several larger Apps
>>>>>> are open at the same time.
>>>>>> So my bottom line is that I get a short delay when moving between Apps
>>>>>> but once there it is solid.
>>>>>> Yosemite leaves memory in RAM if there is space so that when you open an
>>>>>> App again it opens faster.
>>>>>> Yosemite has also been designed to accept all third party applications
>>>>>> that Mavericks accepted so you should not have any issues there.
>>>>>> Other than that it seems most of this upgrade is to do with its look
>>>>>> which doesn't apply to most of us, and it aligns the different Mac
>>>>>> platforms together so you can work on your iphone, ipad or imac at the
>>>>>> same time. This is through the Cloud. You are prompted to add this when
>>>>>> Yosemite runs for the first time.
>>>>>> You can also make phone calls through your desk or laptop so long as
>>>>>> your iphone is within bluetooth reach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TF
>>>>>>
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