Two more things:
1. I wonder if cocktail is doing anything over time that, while great for
nonvoiceover users, isn't so great for voiceover users. I don't know how much
you have it automating its work but that could be something to look at.
Personally, I find no need for such a program on my Mac but that's just my own
style of doing things. I know that some people find it very helpful.
Secondly, If one keeps upgrading and upgrading the same system, I am a believer
in deciding at some point to do what some people think of as "the dreaded"
clean install: installing your system from scratch and then adding in your own
items and applications, preferably not in a wholesale migration assistant move.
I don't mean this has to be done with every major upgrade, though that isn't a
terrible idea, but if you've run two or three major systems just by the
standard upgrade and are having problems, it is worth considering. One way to
find out if this would help would be to do a clean install on an external drive
and just add in your minimum requirements and run it for a while to see if the
performance is better, keeping in mind of course that your external drive
installation may be slower in some ways than your internal drive should be. If
you see a significant difference over time, you might decide to bite the
bullet, back up everything, and do the same on your internal drive. In my
situation, I am running everything off of external drives right now. My
internal drive shows as verified and appears to work, but once i put a system
on it and start using it, at some point I start getting input/output errors.
Not wanting to take my computer to Apple and pay what I suspect would be a good
amount for the labor and drive (thinking about an ssd) and not having the
expertise to take apart an iMac myself and not knowing anybody capable of doing
this for me for less (thinking though of checking with authorized service
providers in my area which may charge less than Apple), I am using external
drives and so taking one of them and doing a clean install is not a big
problem. In fact, this is what I do when I run a beta. At any rate, though
Apple makes it ever so easy to upgrade your present system, I believe that at
some point it becomes wise to do a clean install and that it is worth the
effort to do this. At what point each person does that clean install has to be
a very individual decision and I wouldn't attempt to tell anybody that it is
time to do that unless I personally was working on his/her computer.
The tips that CJ posted do help in my experience.
--
Cheryl
May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
On Oct 8, 2016, at 11:18 PM, CJ Daniel <cj_daniel@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Suzanne,
I was experiencing some of the same issues, with my upgrade to Sierra. One
of the problems that occurs, when you upgrade to a new OS, is that the new
software is indexing everything—& I mean everything—on your HD for Spotlight
purposes. That takes several days, depending on the amount of data on your
drive.
Secondly, & more importantly for VoiceOver users, are the “Heavy Effects” on
the display. Search this list for the subject “lost Alex compact” & you’ll
find some messages between Cheryl & myself. There’s a link in one of my
MSG’s about a web article that details disabling these “Heavy Effects” in the
Accessibility/display & Dock areas of the Settings program. Once I made
these 5 changes, My Mac was back, even under Sierra. If you can’t find the
article, let me know & I’ll try & find the link. Hang in there, you can
resolve the issue.
Hope this helps,
CJ
On Oct 8, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Listers,
Despite using Cocktail in the demo version, my computer is acting extremely
sluggish, and VoiceOver is often not working. Had a similar occurrence a
couple of months ago. Took it to the Apple Store, they ran a
diagnostic,,,,, reinstalled the OS, and it was okay but not great.
I upgraded to Siera, with no chnge.
Then, a bout two weeks ago, I installed Cocktail and it acted better
than it had been for quite some time. Then, it started actings sluggish
again, and today, VoiceOver has been almost non-existent. It will work for
a few syllables, then stop. It will act like it wants to say something but
can’t. Even if I do a cold reboot, VoiceOver does not come back immediately.
Very strange, indeed!
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should have the Geniuses
look for?
Thanks so much! Sorry if this is more of a diagnostic question than a
strictly VoiceOver related one.
I am in business for myself, annd depend on my computer for work. I really
want this computer to last at least until spring.
I can use my iPhone for many things, but I ned access to soe files that are
on the computer.
Have a blessed weekend!
Suzanne>
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