-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 05:57
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Seed betas RE: listen to Keith about
ITunes
apple does not allw anything to be revealed. even if you are
participating.
I suggest you drop a note to accessibility and get assurance from them
whether vo users are participating.
cute.
On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
I think you're being unnecessarily cute. I just wanted to be sure that
our interests are being represented. The general rules of betas are
that you don't discuss the details of unreleased software, or what is
discussed about the unreleased software on its forums. For example, I
can tell you that I'm currently participating in betas for Jaws,
CakeTalking, MobileSpeak, and others, and that doesn't make me super
cool for being included, nor is it breaking terms of an NDA to just
say
that I'm participating.
None of you secret people, who-ever you are, need divulge any details.
If you're beta testing, that means I don't have to. It would just be
good to know that some people are, in fact, participating.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:08 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Seed betas RE: listen to Keith about
ITunes
If anyone is participating, they aren't allowed to say.
On Oct 31, 2009, at 4:29 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
Is anyone on this list participating in any of the Apple Seed beta
programs? If not, we should get some people using assistive tech to
represent us in those.
http://appleseed.apple.com
There is also the Apple Seed program for developers. It is my
understanding that only those in the developer programs, that are
paying for premium ADC memberships are given seeds of new OS versions.
Premium ADC memberships cost around $500/year, from what I'm told.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Hess
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:19 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] listen to Keith about ITunes
I have no doubt that Apple is aware of these problems and will correct
them. However, it might be prudent to write a kind note to
accessibility@xxxxxxxxx stating the problems you are finding.
REmember, kindness goes along way in getting things done.
John W. Hess & Barclay the WonderLab
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