[macvoiceover] Re: Apple Seed betas RE: listen to Keith about ITunes
- From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:03:19 -0700
Eather does code factory so go figure where he is coming from
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 05:57
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Seed betas RE: listen to Keith about
> ITunes
>
> apple does not allw anything to be revealed. even if you are
> participating.
>
> I suggest you drop a note to accessibility and get assurance from them
> whether vo users are participating.
> cute.
>
> On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>
> I think you're being unnecessarily cute. I just wanted to be sure that
> our interests are being represented. The general rules of betas are
> that you don't discuss the details of unreleased software, or what is
> discussed about the unreleased software on its forums. For example, I
> can tell you that I'm currently participating in betas for Jaws,
> CakeTalking, MobileSpeak, and others, and that doesn't make me super
> cool for being included, nor is it breaking terms of an NDA to just say
> that I'm participating.
>
> None of you secret people, who-ever you are, need divulge any details.
> If you're beta testing, that means I don't have to. It would just be
> good to know that some people are, in fact, participating.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:08 AM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Seed betas RE: listen to Keith about
> ITunes
>
> If anyone is participating, they aren't allowed to say.
>
> On Oct 31, 2009, at 4:29 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>
> Is anyone on this list participating in any of the Apple Seed beta
> programs? If not, we should get some people using assistive tech to
> represent us in those.
>
> http://appleseed.apple.com
>
> There is also the Apple Seed program for developers. It is my
> understanding that only those in the developer programs, that are
> paying for premium ADC memberships are given seeds of new OS versions.
> Premium ADC memberships cost around $500/year, from what I'm told.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Hess
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:19 AM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] listen to Keith about ITunes
>
> I have no doubt that Apple is aware of these problems and will correct
> them. However, it might be prudent to write a kind note to
> accessibility@xxxxxxxxx stating the problems you are finding.
> REmember, kindness goes along way in getting things done.
>
> John W. Hess & Barclay the WonderLab
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