[mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again

  • From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:23:12 -0700

yeha i tried searching google but there were snobish forum replies talkign 
about osx and how it really did not need to be maintained and all of them said 
to do repair permitions. I've been searching this for months and no luck.


On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>     Again, speak to an Apple tech support person or do some serious searching 
> on Google.  Maybe, on of the Mac forums might have a good suggestion.  Also, 
> on the Apple website, do a search in support to find out if there are any 
> knowledge base articles of relevance.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> No it should not. If I open let' say 1 or even 4 messages at a time in mail, 
>>  my mail acts like it  wants to freeze. it is between 1 and 2 seconds  or 
>> maybe a bit more until I hear the changing window soundd. and even vo right 
>> arrowing is causing  mail or finder to be busy in list mode.
>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, like I said, this might be a question for Apple support.  To me, it 
>>> should not be behaving like that.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The thing is only a year old. Only finder and mail seem to slow to a 
>>>> crawl. 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/03/2011, at 9:41, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Even with those size files, the entire system shouldn't be slowing down 
>>>>> like that.  Honestly, I am out of ideas.  There is probably something 
>>>>> obvious that is being missed, but I would really contact the local Apple 
>>>>> Store or call Apple.  How old is this machine?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well I ran onyx and it does not seem to have worked. I also ran a repair 
>>>>>> disk and an disk utility and no go. I also repaired permitions. it sucks 
>>>>>> tha tonly files under 20 mb are defraged. My work has to have me work 
>>>>>> with files that are hundreds of mb big and sometimes even about a gig 
>>>>>> for a whole project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keep us posted, Sarah.  When all else fails, a call to Apple support or 
>>>>>>> a visit to an Apple Store is always an option as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also run cached out. spelled it wrong  but for those that need 
>>>>>>>> something else it's a good good tool. I'll try onyx and see if it 
>>>>>>>> fixes it. Maybe the third time will be a chrm. I'm frustrated by tghis!
>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That is a good application.  There are utilities in there worth 
>>>>>>>>> running and scheduling.  Clearing the cache and such.  I use 
>>>>>>>>> Cocktail, but it's the same thing.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'd still run a disk permissions repair off of your install disk for 
>>>>>>>>> the heck of it as well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I checked all of this and it seems to be speeding up slowly but this 
>>>>>>>>>> is getting rediculous. I have not yet run permitions again. well I 
>>>>>>>>>> did a few weeks ago but I need to get back inthe habit. I wonder 
>>>>>>>>>> what onyx will do for me lol! that is a pretty good suite of stuff 
>>>>>>>>>> to fun.
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, this shouldn't be happening with a Mac.  You are not 
>>>>>>>>>>> using that much disk space.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Other ideas would be running a disk permissions check from 
>>>>>>>>>>> Utilities off of your install disk.  Also, check activity monitor 
>>>>>>>>>>> to see if anything is running that you are not aware of.  Check to 
>>>>>>>>>>> see if you have anything starting up with the system in your login 
>>>>>>>>>>> area of system preferences under Accounts.  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I disabled the dash board as I don't know how to use it. I have 4 
>>>>>>>>>>>> gigs of ram on this thing and I do empty my trash. the last time I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> repaired permitions it worked, for about 10 minutes and then it  
>>>>>>>>>>>> went back to slowness. that was a few months ago when this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:04 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can try running permissions first.  See if that helps.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, make sure you don't have anything eating your processor 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> power.  It's not as big a deal on a Mac, but how much RAM to you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have?  Also, make sure you empty the trash and you don't have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> open widgets running in background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my stuff is projects I do for  other people that are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge up to 3 or 4 gigs in size.  OH fun! but yeah this is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous. I thought that  it would have defraged itself by now 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I'l be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of downloaded material.  Yes, an external drive to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back it all up and also eliminating anything not important.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have had my MBP for two years and I haven't filled forty 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of the HD yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that was what I thought. This person must really have a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of stuff on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her HD. It might be time to get a external HD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your actual hard drive?  How did you fill it up so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much?  A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive filling up shouldn't slow a system down until you have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it beyond 75 percent capasity from personal experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean at the time my start up disk was a 0 kb and before 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then everythign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was slowing down to a crawl well finder and mail mainly. Now  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm at 91 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so out of 250 gigs free and everythign is still slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:23 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by full startup disk?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok once again I have a full start up disk. If I clear at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least half of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my mail and finder are still as slow as ever in rendering 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in the message list views and in list mode in finder. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things faster with out reinstalling? I don't want to go that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rout. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I have too much to focus on this week with mid terms 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update: I've now freed up to 93 gigs of space but the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> darned thing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still slow especially in the mail program at rendering the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages when I'm done reading a few. How can I fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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