[mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again

  • From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:11:03 -0700

No it should not. If I open let' say 1 or even 4 messages at a time in mail,  
my mail acts like it  wants to freeze. it is between 1 and 2 seconds  or maybe 
a bit more until I hear the changing window soundd. and even vo right arrowing 
is causing  mail or finder to be busy in list mode.
On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:

>   Well, like I said, this might be a question for Apple support.  To me, it 
> should not be behaving like that.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> The thing is only a year old. Only finder and mail seem to slow to a crawl. 
>> 
>> On 19/03/2011, at 9:41, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>>   Even with those size files, the entire system shouldn't be slowing down 
>>> like that.  Honestly, I am out of ideas.  There is probably something 
>>> obvious that is being missed, but I would really contact the local Apple 
>>> Store or call Apple.  How old is this machine?
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well I ran onyx and it does not seem to have worked. I also ran a repair 
>>>> disk and an disk utility and no go. I also repaired permitions. it sucks 
>>>> tha tonly files under 20 mb are defraged. My work has to have me work with 
>>>> files that are hundreds of mb big and sometimes even about a gig for a 
>>>> whole project.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Keep us posted, Sarah.  When all else fails, a call to Apple support or a 
>>>>> visit to an Apple Store is always an option as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also run cached out. spelled it wrong  but for those that need 
>>>>>> something else it's a good good tool. I'll try onyx and see if it fixes 
>>>>>> it. Maybe the third time will be a chrm. I'm frustrated by tghis!
>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That is a good application.  There are utilities in there worth running 
>>>>>>> and scheduling.  Clearing the cache and such.  I use Cocktail, but it's 
>>>>>>> the same thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd still run a disk permissions repair off of your install disk for 
>>>>>>> the heck of it as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I checked all of this and it seems to be speeding up slowly but this 
>>>>>>>> is getting rediculous. I have not yet run permitions again. well I did 
>>>>>>>> a few weeks ago but I need to get back inthe habit. I wonder what onyx 
>>>>>>>> will do for me lol! that is a pretty good suite of stuff to fun.
>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Honestly, this shouldn't be happening with a Mac.  You are not using 
>>>>>>>>> that much disk space.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Other ideas would be running a disk permissions check from Utilities 
>>>>>>>>> off of your install disk.  Also, check activity monitor to see if 
>>>>>>>>> anything is running that you are not aware of.  Check to see if you 
>>>>>>>>> have anything starting up with the system in your login area of 
>>>>>>>>> system preferences under Accounts.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I disabled the dash board as I don't know how to use it. I have 4 
>>>>>>>>>> gigs of ram on this thing and I do empty my trash. the last time I 
>>>>>>>>>> repaired permitions it worked, for about 10 minutes and then it  
>>>>>>>>>> went back to slowness. that was a few months ago when this happened.
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:04 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can try running permissions first.  See if that helps.  
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, make sure you don't have anything eating your processor 
>>>>>>>>>>> power.  It's not as big a deal on a Mac, but how much RAM to you 
>>>>>>>>>>> have?  Also, make sure you empty the trash and you don't have open 
>>>>>>>>>>> widgets running in background.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my stuff is projects I do for  other people that are huge 
>>>>>>>>>>>> up to 3 or 4 gigs in size.  OH fun! but yeah this is ridiculous. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought that  it would have defraged itself by now but I'l be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of downloaded material.  Yes, an external drive to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back it all up and also eliminating anything not important.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have had my MBP for two years and I haven't filled forty percent 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the HD yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that was what I thought. This person must really have a lot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of stuff on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her HD. It might be time to get a external HD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your actual hard drive?  How did you fill it up so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much?  A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive filling up shouldn't slow a system down until you have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it beyond 75 percent capasity from personal experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean at the time my start up disk was a 0 kb and before then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everythign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was slowing down to a crawl well finder and mail mainly. Now  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm at 91 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so out of 250 gigs free and everythign is still slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:23 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by full startup disk?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok once again I have a full start up disk. If I clear at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least half of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my mail and finder are still as slow as ever in rendering 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in the message list views and in list mode in finder. How 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things faster with out reinstalling? I don't want to go that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rout. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I have too much to focus on this week with mid terms 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update: I've now freed up to 93 gigs of space but the darned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still slow especially in the mail program at rendering the table 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages when I'm done reading a few. How can I fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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