[mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again
- From: John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:27:03 -0400
OK, so this more strongly leads me to believe that this might be a hardware
issue. If you have tried installing the OS again, it could only be that.
However, if you have your material all backed up and have not done a reinstall,
I'd do a complete wipe and then install the OS from scratch. After that, move
your stuff over.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.macfortheblind.com
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On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> yeha i tried searching google but there were snobish forum replies talkign
> about osx and how it really did not need to be maintained and all of them
> said to do repair permitions. I've been searching this for months and no luck.
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>
>> Again, speak to an Apple tech support person or do some serious searching
>> on Google. Maybe, on of the Mac forums might have a good suggestion. Also,
>> on the Apple website, do a search in support to find out if there are any
>> knowledge base articles of relevance.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>
>>> No it should not. If I open let' say 1 or even 4 messages at a time in
>>> mail, my mail acts like it wants to freeze. it is between 1 and 2 seconds
>>> or maybe a bit more until I hear the changing window soundd. and even vo
>>> right arrowing is causing mail or finder to be busy in list mode.
>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, like I said, this might be a question for Apple support. To me, it
>>>> should not be behaving like that.
>>>>
>>>> Take Care
>>>>
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The thing is only a year old. Only finder and mail seem to slow to a
>>>>> crawl.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19/03/2011, at 9:41, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Even with those size files, the entire system shouldn't be slowing down
>>>>>> like that. Honestly, I am out of ideas. There is probably something
>>>>>> obvious that is being missed, but I would really contact the local Apple
>>>>>> Store or call Apple. How old is this machine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well I ran onyx and it does not seem to have worked. I also ran a
>>>>>>> repair disk and an disk utility and no go. I also repaired permitions.
>>>>>>> it sucks tha tonly files under 20 mb are defraged. My work has to have
>>>>>>> me work with files that are hundreds of mb big and sometimes even about
>>>>>>> a gig for a whole project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keep us posted, Sarah. When all else fails, a call to Apple support
>>>>>>>> or a visit to an Apple Store is always an option as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also run cached out. spelled it wrong but for those that need
>>>>>>>>> something else it's a good good tool. I'll try onyx and see if it
>>>>>>>>> fixes it. Maybe the third time will be a chrm. I'm frustrated by
>>>>>>>>> tghis!
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is a good application. There are utilities in there worth
>>>>>>>>>> running and scheduling. Clearing the cache and such. I use
>>>>>>>>>> Cocktail, but it's the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd still run a disk permissions repair off of your install disk for
>>>>>>>>>> the heck of it as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I checked all of this and it seems to be speeding up slowly but
>>>>>>>>>>> this is getting rediculous. I have not yet run permitions again.
>>>>>>>>>>> well I did a few weeks ago but I need to get back inthe habit. I
>>>>>>>>>>> wonder what onyx will do for me lol! that is a pretty good suite of
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff to fun.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, this shouldn't be happening with a Mac. You are not
>>>>>>>>>>>> using that much disk space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Other ideas would be running a disk permissions check from
>>>>>>>>>>>> Utilities off of your install disk. Also, check activity monitor
>>>>>>>>>>>> to see if anything is running that you are not aware of. Check to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see if you have anything starting up with the system in your login
>>>>>>>>>>>> area of system preferences under Accounts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disabled the dash board as I don't know how to use it. I have 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gigs of ram on this thing and I do empty my trash. the last time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I repaired permitions it worked, for about 10 minutes and then it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> went back to slowness. that was a few months ago when this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:04 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can try running permissions first. See if that helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, make sure you don't have anything eating your processor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power. It's not as big a deal on a Mac, but how much RAM to you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have? Also, make sure you empty the trash and you don't have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open widgets running in background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my stuff is projects I do for other people that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge up to 3 or 4 gigs in size. OH fun! but yeah this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous. I thought that it would have defraged itself by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now but I'l be patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of downloaded material. Yes, an external drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to back it all up and also eliminating anything not important.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have had my MBP for two years and I haven't filled forty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of the HD yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that was what I thought. This person must really have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of stuff on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her HD. It might be time to get a external HD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your actual hard drive? How did you fill it up so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much? A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive filling up shouldn't slow a system down until you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it beyond 75 percent capasity from personal experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean at the time my start up disk was a 0 kb and before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then everythign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was slowing down to a crawl well finder and mail mainly. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm at 91 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so out of 250 gigs free and everythign is still slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:23 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by full startup disk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRAINING AND
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok once again I have a full start up disk. If I clear at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least half of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my mail and finder are still as slow as ever in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendering tables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in the message list views and in list mode in finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things faster with out reinstalling? I don't want to go that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rout. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I have too much to focus on this week with mid terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update: I've now freed up to 93 gigs of space but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> darned thing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still slow especially in the mail program at rendering the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages when I'm done reading a few. How can I fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
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