[mac4theblind] Re: giving a Mac for a friend: a couple of questions
- From: Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:29:47 +0000
OK to help you with this,
what you could do is this, as you're giving it as a gift, get the recipient's
details.
Name,
address,
post code,
phone number,
email.
You'll need to create a new apple ID for the user so ask your recipient for a
password he / she would like to use with the new apple ID. in this case, the
recipient's email address is a good starting point.
from there, once the apple ID is created through apple. link it to iTunes and
the app store. Now, if you're feeling generous, a £15 / $15 itunes card will
allow you to set your new owner up with mountain lion. and yes the 2008 mbp
will handle mountain lion without issues as proven on my 2007 macbook pro 3.1
machine. you don't need any CD's if you happen to have a spare USB pen drive.
you can create a USB build drive to restore the system and perform a clean
installation. on that pen drive you can include ilife and iwork, contact me
off list at edwardredfern@xxxxxxx and I'll assist you further on that.
lew
Edward Redfern
Vintage Mower Restorer.
E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx
Twitter: redfernmowers
Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com
Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time.
Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for more
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On 21 Dec 2012, at 12:57, Scott Davert <scottslistmail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Lew.
> I'm actually giving this to a friend and was hoping to get it set up
> to the point where all that has to vbe done is actually log in with
> the Apple ID and set the user account preferences. I don't have any
> disk immages for any of the OSX builds, nor do I know of a good
> burning utility for Mac even if I had an ISO of OSX.
> I think, but am not sure, that the original owner of this machine may
> have installed Lion through OEM, but I'm not for certain. So basically
> what you're saying is that if I log out of the App Store with my Apple
> ID, deauthorize iTunes, and remove the few files I have, that it's not
> secure? I have never set up mail or any other app other than the App
> Store with my Apple ID.
>
> Thank you for your help!
> Scott
>
> On 12/21/12, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> all areas of system rebuilding, maintenance and service are voiceover
>> friendly and accessible.
>>
>> if you do a disk rebuild, you can either use the original restore DVD's that
>> came with the system or if you're using an OEM version of lion, then
>> brilliant, you don't need your account data. if it's a retail version you
>> purchased from the app store, any updates that require the app store, will
>> ask for your apple ID which is unique to you and should not be given to
>> another user.
>>
>> If it was me, I carry a full range of OS kits for the mac, so can rebuild a
>> mac to spec. my usual way of this is to install lion OEM which I have from a
>> new iMac 2011 rebuilt volume. then it's a clean installation so can install
>> the volume without issues.
>>
>> mountain lion is available to users only as a retail instance unless you're
>> a systems engineer and able to create an OEM version of mountain lion.
>>
>> booting into recovery mode, or using your restore disks is fully voiceover
>> supported, so there's no worries there. just boot your restore CD's if doing
>> a clean install, run voiceover, then run disk util to wipe the drive clean,
>> then install OS X the way you want it. then providing the install uses both
>> DVD's before a reboot to set up the login details, you can eject the disc at
>> the point where you hear music played to create your new user account and
>> power down. this then means your new owner can set up the mac how they want
>> it.
>>
>> if you get stuck, ask and I'll walk you through the whole thing.
>>
>> lew
>>
>> Edward Redfern
>> Vintage Mower Restorer.
>> E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx
>> Twitter: redfernmowers
>> Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com
>> Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time.
>>
>> Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for
>> more information.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 Dec 2012, at 11:25, Scott Davert <scottslistmail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you all for the replies! If I do a reformat, since Lion was
>>> already installed over Snow Leopard, I'll lose Lion, rright? There is
>>> no personal data on here, and there are no personal files on my
>>> Dropbox, but there's no point to leaving either the app or my dropbox
>>> files onboard. I'm running Lion, so I'm guessing there is no
>>> accessible way to do this? Thank you all for your quick and useful
>>> replies! I'll go in to System preferences and configure a new account.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 12/21/12, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I would recommend this option to protect data from recovery. this should
>>>> also be done when you create a new master account on the mac if sending
>>>> out
>>>> to someone, etc. to do this, run disk utility, select your drive, then go
>>>> to
>>>> erase. you then instruct the following. Erase free space. you can do a
>>>> quick
>>>> erase, which is a single pass 0 write, all the way to a 37x pass write
>>>> but
>>>> that takes days on the highest setting.
>>>>
>>>> once done, your data is safe.
>>>>
>>>> lew
>>>>
>>>> Edward Redfern
>>>> Vintage Mower Restorer.
>>>> E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx
>>>> Twitter: redfernmowers
>>>> Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com
>>>> Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time.
>>>>
>>>> Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch
>>>> for
>>>> more information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21 Dec 2012, at 10:01, "Kliphton" <kliphton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is wipe free space a secure way of permanently getting rid of data?
>>>>>
>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edward Redfern
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:57 AM
>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: giving a Mac for a friend: a couple of
>>>>> questions
>>>>>
>>>>> once you delete an account, normal methods cannot recover the account
>>>>> or
>>>>> it's data.
>>>>>
>>>>> if it was me, I'd low level format the hard drive, clean install and
>>>>> register the system as administrator or if you happen to know the user,
>>>>> their name, then register the OS to their address, etc so that it's
>>>>> ready
>>>>> to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> lew
>>>>>
>>>>> Edward Redfern
>>>>> Vintage Mower Restorer.
>>>>> E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx
>>>>> Twitter: redfernmowers
>>>>> Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com
>>>>> Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch
>>>>> for
>>>>> more information.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Dec 2012, at 09:50, "Kliphton" <kliphton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the second method destroy all personal data, or is it able to be
>>>>> recovered at some point?
>>>>>
>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edward Redfern
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:36 AM
>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: giving a Mac for a friend: a couple of
>>>>> questions
>>>>>
>>>>> drop box is accessible tyhrough menu extras to do so after pressing VO
>>>>> M
>>>>> M, VO right arrow until you hear dropbox. then VO SHIFT DOWN ARROW to
>>>>> interact and open the menu. Quit drop box and then delete it from apps.
>>>>> however, doing this doesn't guarantee data security. there will be a
>>>>> pref
>>>>> file linked to this containing any saved passwords.
>>>>>
>>>>> if you're passing on a machine, I advise one of two procedures for
>>>>> data
>>>>> security.
>>>>> 1: full disk destroy and rebuild with OS X (note that OS X mountain
>>>>> lion
>>>>> as a purchased product is assigned to your account details only and no
>>>>> other, so you would purchase a fresh copy of mountain lion, building an
>>>>> apple ID for the new user as well as an app store / itunes account.
>>>>> these
>>>>> do not require credit card details.
>>>>>
>>>>> the other way is to go to accounts in system preferences, create a new
>>>>> super user account and delete your current user account when you've
>>>>> logged
>>>>> into your mac as the new super user. this will delete all preferences
>>>>> associated with the user account and set up a new user account as an
>>>>> administrator. for more info, please drop me a line and I'll try to
>>>>> help
>>>>> you here.
>>>>>
>>>>> lew
>>>>>
>>>>> Edward Redfern
>>>>> Vintage Mower Restorer.
>>>>> E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx
>>>>> Twitter: redfernmowers
>>>>> Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com
>>>>> Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch
>>>>> for
>>>>> more information.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Dec 2012, at 09:13, Chris H <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What version of Os X are you using? If Mountain Lion you can see
>>>>> Dropbox
>>>>> in the Extras Menu, accessed with vo-m-m twice. If not, then it is not
>>>>> accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/12/2012 08:58, Scott Davert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>> I apologize if this seems rather simple, but I can't seem to find the
>>>>> answer. I'm a fairly new serious Mac user, so perhaps I'm making this
>>>>> harder than it needs to be.
>>>>> Instead of reformatting this Macbook 2008 before I give it to my
>>>>> friend, I'm trying to sign out of all my stuff. I have signed out of
>>>>> the App Store, the Twitter clients, but can't seem to sign out of
>>>>> Dropbox. When I attempt to remove the application altogether, it tells
>>>>> me that I cannot move the selected application to the trash because it
>>>>> is currently. However, I cannot find it in the list of windows that
>>>>> are currently open with command `. Is there somewhere I can disable
>>>>> this application altogether and just remove it, or is there a simple
>>>>> way I can sign out? Whenever I launch the app itself, VO just tells me
>>>>> "dropbox has no windows". So, I'm a bit confused as to what to do
>>>>> here. Any help would would greatly be appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a great Friday!
>>>>> Scott
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