I didn't say that the people I've talked to were not willing to learn, they just don't know to start with, and seeing it's their own product, built, none the less, right into the OS, that kind of is a slight bit disturbing to me that they don't even know their own products.
Chris.----- Original Message ----- From: "dogstar172" <dogstar172@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: I did it....New I pad!I have found no matter where it is, when it comes to accessibility products, generally, I have found some who do not know and others who know. Then with the group that does not know, its a matter of presentation. We each get an opportunity to educate and inform. I have found most of the people I have encountered are very open to learn and become better informed.
Angie On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:50 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
all I do is show them, telling them or asking them leads to onfusion more often than not. Usually when you show them, the recognize it.On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:28 AM, Christohper-Mark Gilland wrote:Unfortunately, I'm finding this to be more and more the case. It seems most Apple specialests simply don't know about Voiceover. I literally went into an Apple store the other day, and was shooting the dice with a genious. I brought up the subject of Voiceover, and the didn't even know what it was or that it existed. They thought I meant like an app for doing voiceover naration for a movie etc. When I mentioned about Universal Access on the Mac, they kind a shrugged, and said, what's that?I've found a few reps who really! know there stuff, bigtime, but it's very very very very! hard to come by. Kind a makes me wonder how much training some of these guys really are truely getting.Frankly, if it was my decision, which it's not, but if! hypotheticly it were, I'd personally see to it, that in training there was a whole in depth section completely devoted to not just Vopiceover, but more to Universal Access, in a whole.Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catnip" <ajokitty@xxxxx> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:27 AM Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: I did it....New I pad!As I said. He will definitely hear from me. Just sorry I didn't record ourconversation. People who hate cats will come back as mice! ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Jonnie Appleseed With His Hands-On Technolog(eye)s Touching The Internet Reducing Technology's disabilities One Byte At A Tie ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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