[mac4theblind] Re: Downloading already purchased Songs
- From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:59:54 -0500
I don't have these issues.
On Nov 26, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Let me start by saying that I am not an ICloud user as of yet. I definitely
plan to be eventually once I get some money, but anyway, that's totally aside
the point...
Basically, I'm using ITunes 10.5.1 with Snowleopard, although I had a friend
who very thoroughly tested this on Lion, and had the exact same results.
What the deal is, is that I am trying to redownload some tracks from ITunes
which I've already purchased in the past. What's really really weird however,
is that I seem to be having major! focus issues. Here are the steps I'm taking.
1. Press vo+D to focus myself on the dock.
2. press i t to reach ITunes.
3. Press return to launch ITunes. Note: disregard steps 1-3 if ITunes is
already running.
4. Once in ITunes, press command+Shift+H to go to the store home page.
5. Press vo+U to open my web rotor, then make sure I'm on the links section,
which 9 times out of 10, I am.
6. type p u r to land myself on the purchased link. Then vo+space twice to
click it.
7. Vo+right arrow to find the name of the artist whom I'm wanting to download
tracks from.
8. once on the name of the artist, vo+command+F5 to route my mouse pointer to
the vo cursor. (I have it said to follow, but just to be on the safe side...
9. vo+shift+space to literally mouse click the item.
10. I'm on a macbook, so, fn+vo+right arrow... (vo+end...) then start vo left
arrowing to move up the page until I find the download all button.
11. Vo+Space on the button, and boom!
In theory, that works, but here is the problem I'm running into:
For some? reason, voiceover's not correctly focusing 90% of the time. It seems
like it happens when an artist isn't on the first page, thus meaning from a
visial perspective, now I don't have the vision to definitely confirm this, but
based on some tests I ran, which I'll cover here in justa second, I'd say my
theory would be extremely likely. It seems like! if! the screen has to scroll
to visually reveal more artists, then the problem occurs. Otherwise, it
doesn't. If I have to go way down in my list of artists, then! try to route
the mouse, and click, it's wanting to then click the apple menu up in the menu
bar instead of clicking where I need it to.
Now for the tests I ran to try trouble shooting this.
First of all, I wanted to see for real, where the mouse actually was landing.
I thus routed the mouse as normal, then hit vo+F5. Sure enough! Apple menu is
under the mouse. I tried actually sliding my finger around on the track pad to
move it away from the apple menu, then rerouting, but I got identically the
same thing. I then thought, well, hmm, it only seems to be doing this with
certain artists. What if I try with an artist more near the top of the list...
I tried this theory. Sure enough! I routed the mouse, did my vo+F5, and
observed that I landed correctly on the artist, and when doing vo+shift+space,
it clicked, and all was perfect! I then tried again scrolling way down my
list, and doing the same thing. It landed me again on the Apple Menu. That's
why I say, I almost wonder if somehow, for some bizarre reason, though I can't
for the life a me imagine why, the screen's not scrolling visually along with
the voiceover cursor, thus, when I try routing the mouse, it can't as there is
nothing to route to! Does that make any sense? Hope so.
So next thing I did is I tried hitting vo+shift+F3 to disable cursor tracking.
I then proceeded to try the same thing all over again, but had the same result.
Finally, I tried while in the html content area and whilst interacting,
obviously, to vo+twist clockwize on the trackpad to turn on trackpad commander.
I then tried to 3 finger flick up, to see if maybe I could somehow scroll the
screen that way. It did! say page 2 of 2, at that point. the really! strange
thing was that now, get a loada! this! the Voiceover cursor was still! on the
same place. Even though I'd scrolled, apparently, the voiceover cursor
remained right where it was. still though, just? outta chance, I did the same
thing by routing the mouse, then trying to click. Absolutely no good. It still
brought the Apple Menu up. I did reopen ITunes, and also did restart the mac,
and I did also restart Voiceover. Absolutely nothing worked.
This is not a matter of my Voiceover settings in the voiceover utility being
set wrong, as a friend of mine on Lion with totally different voiceover
settings than myself tried the exact same thing, and had identically the same
behavior. So not only is it that, but it's not even an OS specific issue, as
I'm on 10.6, he's on 10.7 Lion.
I've not yet reported this to
accessibility@xxxxxxxxx
but I definitely am going to, provided no one here knows a work around, or
knows any way to deal with this.
I could use my IPhone and just do it that way, then sync to my mac, but the
issue there is I don't want all these downloads on my phone.
You say, well then, just delete it off the music device playlist in your
sources list. Well, that's all good n all, but, when I interact with the
sources list, then vo+back slash to expand my IPhone, then vo+down arrow to the
music playlist, I then stop interacting, vo+left arrow once to the search box,
type in, say... oh, I dono... we'll just say... Rockstar by Nickleback, so I
type Rockstar. Then I vo+right arrow to the table. I do see it, but the check
box is dimmed, for one thing in the second I think it is, collumn. If I hit
the delete key, nothing happens, and if I vo+shift+space, the context menu
doesn't have a remove option. Yeah, I do sync my music with a specific
playlist which I call Transfers, instead of my whole library, as I have too
much to sync everything. even going to the transfers playlist on the IPhone...
in there, I don't even see the songs I search for, and oddly, if I go to the
actual artist playlist on the macbook in ITunes itself, even though the song's
in my library after synking my IPhone, it's not in the local transfers
playlist. So the only thing to do is delete it from my library, which defeats
the whole entire purpose.
I'm having even worse luck in windows, with jaws 12, as that thing gives me the
virtual pc cursor, but past that, I can't tab around, nor do insert+F7 for my
link's list, nor arrow around. If I do, I just hear blank, blank, blank. It's
like f, you, too! LOL! I'll blank blank blank you! in a minute!
So yeah... does anyone! have any? un! Godly! idea?
Please do not write back telling me, well, I add things with command+o to get
an open dialog then just do it that way. Realize... I'm not trying to import a
song on my drive that I've already got. If that is what you think, then you're
totally confused. I'm not wanting to import things on my drive. that's not
even close! to what I'm doing. I am trying again in the actual? ITunes store!
to download music which has been lost in a hard disk crash, that I did not get
the chance to first back up before reinstalling the OS. I want to redownload
things not in my library nor on my drive which I already purchased. I again am
not an ITunes Max member, and I don't back my stuff up to ICloud either.
Thanks for any and all help.
Chris.
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