[mac4theblind] Re: Downloading already purchased Songs
- From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:12:32 -0800
Actually it isn't. it's a bug in itunes. Just hit space on the check box. and
you shoudl be fine. If yu have maange music manually then that's why it's
dimmed. I shut that off as you cannot manage anythign else including ringtones
and books. I do this all the time with my music.
Take care.
On Nov 26, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> I tried. That checkbox is dimmed, so I can't do anything about it.
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 12:48 PM
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Downloading already purchased Songs
>
>
> It won't. you need to uncheck the song from yoru playlist inthe devices thing
> and it will be in your library but not be on yoru phone. I do this all the
> time wiht podcasts and stuff.
> On Nov 26, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Sarah, but as I said, there are some things I don't want to have on my
>> IPhone. I can't delete them off the IPhone, as they're not going into my
>> transfers playlist which I have set to sync with my IPhone, and if I
>> highlight the IPhone in the source list, then make sure it's expanded, then
>> go down both to the music and the transfers device playlist, not to be
>> confused with the actual transfers playlist locally in my library on the
>> mac, I can't seem to get the track to delete. I can obviously kill it from
>> my library in a whole, but that totally defeats the purpose. what I want is
>> to download the already purchased track/tracks back to my library, but not
>> have it wind up on my device in the long run, yet still remain in the
>> library.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:56 AM
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Downloading already purchased Songs
>>
>>
>> I would just download them via your phone and then transfer purchaces to
>> yoru library. it's slow but it does work as that's how a friend of mien did
>> it.
>>
>> and I was able to download repurchaced content fine, but that was about a
>> month ago. have not tried it since.
>>
>> Take care.
>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, no other windows were opened that I could get to with either
>>> vo+F2 F2, nor with command+accent/grave.
>>>
>>> I did file a bug report with a senior advisor, and he actually got a lab
>>> machine and turned VO on, and had me walk him through it. He, too, had the
>>> same problem. We went to the remote adminstration site they offer, and I
>>> had him visually look at my screen. He confirmed that the mouse was oddly
>>> enough doing exactly as voiceover was reporting.
>>>
>>> Talk about weird! Anyway, he's gonna write up a report and send it to
>>> engineering.
>>>
>>> Please keep the replies coming though. If anyone knows anything or a way
>>> around this, I'd still be very interested in knowing. I wanna get Match
>>> eventually, but for right now, it's just not an option that I have in my
>>> budget unless someone wants to kindly send me a belated BD gift of $30 this
>>> seeing my BED was on Thanksgiving. the big 3? o! LOL! NO, I'm just
>>> kidding, I'd not make yall do that, LOL!
>>>
>>> Anyway, thanks for any help... heheheheh.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <jpanarese@xxxxxx>
>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:18 AM
>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Downloading already purchased Songs
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sitting at your computer, so I have no idea what can be happening
>>> from a technical standpoint. However, I have had this happen from time to
>>> time where it doesn't seem like I am able to move the specific pointers
>>> around. Usually, I find that there is a window open in background that is
>>> somehow creating this problem.
>>>
>>> Also, to be honest, I had little luck re-downloading previously purchased
>>> songs and such until I did subscribe to iTunes match. I needed to do so a
>>> few times prior to that, and it was always a bit of a task.
>>>
>>> I wish I could be of more help to you, other than to say to try seeing if
>>> you have any open windows with the Window chooser menu. Also, see if you
>>> can download individual songs again one by one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Take Care
>>>
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let me start by saying that I am not an ICloud user as of yet. I
>>>> definitely plan to be eventually once I get some money, but anyway, that's
>>>> totally aside the point...
>>>>
>>>> Basically, I'm using ITunes 10.5.1 with Snowleopard, although I had a
>>>> friend who very thoroughly tested this on Lion, and had the exact same
>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> What the deal is, is that I am trying to redownload some tracks from
>>>> ITunes which I've already purchased in the past. What's really really
>>>> weird however, is that I seem to be having major! focus issues. Here are
>>>> the steps I'm taking.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Press vo+D to focus myself on the dock.
>>>>
>>>> 2. press i t to reach ITunes.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Press return to launch ITunes. Note: disregard steps 1-3 if ITunes
>>>> is already running.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Once in ITunes, press command+Shift+H to go to the store home page.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Press vo+U to open my web rotor, then make sure I'm on the links
>>>> section, which 9 times out of 10, I am.
>>>>
>>>> 6. type p u r to land myself on the purchased link. Then vo+space twice
>>>> to click it.
>>>>
>>>> 7. Vo+right arrow to find the name of the artist whom I'm wanting to
>>>> download tracks from.
>>>>
>>>> 8. once on the name of the artist, vo+command+F5 to route my mouse
>>>> pointer to the vo cursor. (I have it said to follow, but just to be on the
>>>> safe side...
>>>>
>>>> 9. vo+shift+space to literally mouse click the item.
>>>>
>>>> 10. I'm on a macbook, so, fn+vo+right arrow... (vo+end...) then start vo
>>>> left arrowing to move up the page until I find the download all button.
>>>>
>>>> 11. Vo+Space on the button, and boom!
>>>>
>>>> In theory, that works, but here is the problem I'm running into:
>>>>
>>>> For some? reason, voiceover's not correctly focusing 90% of the time. It
>>>> seems like it happens when an artist isn't on the first page, thus meaning
>>>> from a visial perspective, now I don't have the vision to definitely
>>>> confirm this, but based on some tests I ran, which I'll cover here in
>>>> justa second, I'd say my theory would be extremely likely. It seems like!
>>>> if! the screen has to scroll to visually reveal more artists, then the
>>>> problem occurs. Otherwise, it doesn't. If I have to go way down in my
>>>> list of artists, then! try to route the mouse, and click, it's wanting to
>>>> then click the apple menu up in the menu bar instead of clicking where I
>>>> need it to.
>>>>
>>>> Now for the tests I ran to try trouble shooting this.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, I wanted to see for real, where the mouse actually was
>>>> landing. I thus routed the mouse as normal, then hit vo+F5. Sure enough!
>>>> Apple menu is under the mouse. I tried actually sliding my finger around
>>>> on the track pad to move it away from the apple menu, then rerouting, but
>>>> I got identically the same thing. I then thought, well, hmm, it only
>>>> seems to be doing this with certain artists. What if I try with an artist
>>>> more near the top of the list...
>>>>
>>>> I tried this theory. Sure enough! I routed the mouse, did my vo+F5, and
>>>> observed that I landed correctly on the artist, and when doing
>>>> vo+shift+space, it clicked, and all was perfect! I then tried again
>>>> scrolling way down my list, and doing the same thing. It landed me again
>>>> on the Apple Menu. That's why I say, I almost wonder if somehow, for some
>>>> bizarre reason, though I can't for the life a me imagine why, the screen's
>>>> not scrolling visually along with the voiceover cursor, thus, when I try
>>>> routing the mouse, it can't as there is nothing to route to! Does that
>>>> make any sense? Hope so.
>>>>
>>>> So next thing I did is I tried hitting vo+shift+F3 to disable cursor
>>>> tracking. I then proceeded to try the same thing all over again, but had
>>>> the same result.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, I tried while in the html content area and whilst interacting,
>>>> obviously, to vo+twist clockwize on the trackpad to turn on trackpad
>>>> commander. I then tried to 3 finger flick up, to see if maybe I could
>>>> somehow scroll the screen that way. It did! say page 2 of 2, at that
>>>> point. the really! strange thing was that now, get a loada! this! the
>>>> Voiceover cursor was still! on the same place. Even though I'd scrolled,
>>>> apparently, the voiceover cursor remained right where it was. still
>>>> though, just? outta chance, I did the same thing by routing the mouse,
>>>> then trying to click. Absolutely no good. It still brought the Apple Menu
>>>> up. I did reopen ITunes, and also did restart the mac, and I did also
>>>> restart Voiceover. Absolutely nothing worked.
>>>>
>>>> This is not a matter of my Voiceover settings in the voiceover utility
>>>> being set wrong, as a friend of mine on Lion with totally different
>>>> voiceover settings than myself tried the exact same thing, and had
>>>> identically the same behavior. So not only is it that, but it's not even
>>>> an OS specific issue, as I'm on 10.6, he's on 10.7 Lion.
>>>>
>>>> I've not yet reported this to
>>>>
>>>> accessibility@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> but I definitely am going to, provided no one here knows a work around, or
>>>> knows any way to deal with this.
>>>>
>>>> I could use my IPhone and just do it that way, then sync to my mac, but
>>>> the issue there is I don't want all these downloads on my phone.
>>>>
>>>> You say, well then, just delete it off the music device playlist in your
>>>> sources list. Well, that's all good n all, but, when I interact with the
>>>> sources list, then vo+back slash to expand my IPhone, then vo+down arrow
>>>> to the music playlist, I then stop interacting, vo+left arrow once to the
>>>> search box, type in, say... oh, I dono... we'll just say... Rockstar by
>>>> Nickleback, so I type Rockstar. Then I vo+right arrow to the table. I do
>>>> see it, but the check box is dimmed, for one thing in the second I think
>>>> it is, collumn. If I hit the delete key, nothing happens, and if I
>>>> vo+shift+space, the context menu doesn't have a remove option. Yeah, I do
>>>> sync my music with a specific playlist which I call Transfers, instead of
>>>> my whole library, as I have too much to sync everything. even going to
>>>> the transfers playlist on the IPhone... in there, I don't even see the
>>>> songs I search for, and oddly, if I go to the actual artist playlist on
>>>> the macbook in ITunes itself, even though the song's in my library after
>>>> synking my IPhone, it's not in the local transfers playlist. So the only
>>>> thing to do is delete it from my library, which defeats the whole entire
>>>> purpose.
>>>>
>>>> I'm having even worse luck in windows, with jaws 12, as that thing gives
>>>> me the virtual pc cursor, but past that, I can't tab around, nor do
>>>> insert+F7 for my link's list, nor arrow around. If I do, I just hear
>>>> blank, blank, blank. It's like f, you, too! LOL! I'll blank blank blank
>>>> you! in a minute!
>>>>
>>>> So yeah... does anyone! have any? un! Godly! idea?
>>>>
>>>> Please do not write back telling me, well, I add things with command+o to
>>>> get an open dialog then just do it that way. Realize... I'm not trying to
>>>> import a song on my drive that I've already got. If that is what you
>>>> think, then you're totally confused. I'm not wanting to import things on
>>>> my drive. that's not even close! to what I'm doing. I am trying again in
>>>> the actual? ITunes store! to download music which has been lost in a hard
>>>> disk crash, that I did not get the chance to first back up before
>>>> reinstalling the OS. I want to redownload things not in my library nor on
>>>> my drive which I already purchased. I again am not an ITunes Max member,
>>>> and I don't back my stuff up to ICloud either.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any and all help.
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
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