[mac4theblind] Re: Downloading already purchased Songs

  • From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:48:55 -0800

It won't. you need to uncheck the song from yoru playlist inthe devices thing 
and it will be in your library but not be on yoru phone. I do this all the time 
wiht podcasts and stuff.
On Nov 26, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> Yeah, Sarah, but as I said, there are some things I don't want to have on my 
> IPhone.  I can't delete them off the IPhone, as they're not going into my 
> transfers playlist which I have set to sync with my IPhone, and if I 
> highlight the IPhone in the source list, then make sure it's expanded, then 
> go down both to the music and the transfers device playlist, not to be 
> confused with the actual transfers playlist locally in my library on the mac, 
> I can't seem to get the track to delete.  I can obviously kill it from my 
> library in a whole, but that totally defeats the purpose.  what I want is to 
> download the already purchased track/tracks back to my library, but not have 
> it wind up on my device in the long run, yet still remain in the library.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:56 AM
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Downloading already purchased Songs
> 
> 
> I would just download them via your phone and then transfer purchaces to yoru 
> library. it's slow but it does work as that's how a friend of mien did it.
> 
> and I was able to download repurchaced content fine, but that was about a 
> month ago. have not tried it since.
> 
> Take care.
> On Nov 26, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately, no other windows were opened that I could get to with either 
>> vo+F2 F2, nor with command+accent/grave.
>> 
>> I did file a bug report with a senior advisor, and he actually got a lab 
>> machine and turned VO on, and had me walk him through it.  He, too, had the 
>> same problem.  We went to the remote adminstration site they offer, and I 
>> had him visually look at my screen.  He confirmed that the mouse was oddly 
>> enough doing exactly as voiceover was reporting.
>> 
>> Talk about weird!  Anyway, he's gonna write up a report and send it to 
>> engineering.
>> 
>> Please keep the replies coming though.  If anyone knows anything or a way 
>> around this, I'd still be very interested in knowing.  I wanna get Match 
>> eventually, but for right now, it's just not an option that I have in my 
>> budget unless someone wants to kindly send me a belated BD gift of $30 this 
>> seeing my BED was on Thanksgiving.  the big 3? o!  LOL!  NO, I'm just 
>> kidding, I'd not make yall do that, LOL!
>> 
>> Anyway, thanks for any help... heheheheh.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <jpanarese@xxxxxx>
>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:18 AM
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Downloading already purchased Songs
>> 
>> 
>>   I'm not sitting at your computer, so I have no idea what can be happening 
>> from a technical standpoint.  However, I have had this happen from time to 
>> time where it doesn't seem like I am able to move the specific pointers 
>> around.  Usually, I find that there is a window open in background that is 
>> somehow creating this problem.
>> 
>>  Also, to be honest, I had little luck re-downloading previously purchased 
>> songs and such until I did subscribe to iTunes match.  I needed to do so a 
>> few times prior to that, and it was always a bit of a task.
>> 
>>  I wish I could be of more help to you, other than to say to try seeing if 
>> you have any open windows with the Window chooser menu.  Also, see if you 
>> can download individual songs again one by one.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> Let me start by saying that I am not an ICloud user as of yet.  I 
>>> definitely plan to be eventually once I get some money, but anyway, that's 
>>> totally aside the point...
>>> 
>>> Basically, I'm using ITunes 10.5.1 with Snowleopard, although I had a 
>>> friend who very thoroughly tested this on Lion, and had the exact same 
>>> results.
>>> 
>>> What the deal is, is that I am trying to redownload some tracks from ITunes 
>>> which I've already purchased in the past.  What's really really weird 
>>> however, is that I seem to be having major! focus issues.  Here are the 
>>> steps I'm taking.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Press vo+D to focus myself on the dock.
>>> 
>>> 2.  press i t to reach ITunes.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Press return to launch ITunes.  Note:  disregard steps 1-3 if ITunes is 
>>> already running.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Once in ITunes, press command+Shift+H to go to the store home page.
>>> 
>>> 5.  Press vo+U to open my web rotor, then make sure I'm on the links 
>>> section, which 9 times out of 10, I am.
>>> 
>>> 6.  type p u r to land myself on the purchased link.  Then vo+space twice 
>>> to click it.
>>> 
>>> 7.  Vo+right arrow to find the name of the artist whom I'm wanting to 
>>> download tracks from.
>>> 
>>> 8.  once on the name of the artist, vo+command+F5 to route my mouse pointer 
>>> to the vo cursor. (I have it said to follow, but just to be on the safe 
>>> side...
>>> 
>>> 9.  vo+shift+space to literally mouse click the item.
>>> 
>>> 10.  I'm on a macbook, so, fn+vo+right arrow... (vo+end...) then start vo 
>>> left arrowing to move up the page until I find the download all button.
>>> 
>>> 11.  Vo+Space on the button, and boom!
>>> 
>>> In theory, that works, but here is the problem I'm running into:
>>> 
>>> For some? reason, voiceover's not correctly focusing 90% of the time.  It 
>>> seems like it happens when an artist isn't on the first page, thus meaning 
>>> from a visial perspective, now I don't have the vision to definitely 
>>> confirm this, but based on some tests I ran, which I'll cover here in justa 
>>> second, I'd say my theory would be extremely likely.  It seems like! if! 
>>> the screen has to scroll to visually reveal more artists, then the problem 
>>> occurs. Otherwise, it doesn't.  If I have to go way down in my list of 
>>> artists, then! try to route the mouse, and click, it's wanting to then 
>>> click the apple menu up in the menu bar instead of clicking where I need it 
>>> to.
>>> 
>>> Now for the tests I ran to try trouble shooting this.
>>> 
>>> First of all, I wanted to see for real, where the mouse actually was 
>>> landing.  I thus routed the mouse as normal, then hit vo+F5.  Sure enough! 
>>> Apple menu is under the mouse.  I tried actually sliding my finger around 
>>> on the track pad to move it away from the apple menu, then rerouting, but I 
>>> got identically the same thing.  I then thought, well, hmm, it only seems 
>>> to be doing this with certain artists.  What if I try with an artist more 
>>> near the top of the list...
>>> 
>>> I tried this theory.  Sure enough!  I routed the mouse, did my vo+F5, and 
>>> observed that I landed correctly on the artist, and when doing 
>>> vo+shift+space, it clicked, and all was perfect!  I then tried again 
>>> scrolling way down my list, and doing the same thing.  It landed me again 
>>> on the Apple Menu.  That's why I say, I almost wonder if somehow, for some 
>>> bizarre reason, though I can't for the life a me imagine why, the screen's 
>>> not scrolling visually along with the voiceover cursor, thus, when I try 
>>> routing the mouse, it can't as there is nothing to route to! Does that make 
>>> any sense?  Hope so.
>>> 
>>> So next thing I did is I tried hitting vo+shift+F3 to disable cursor 
>>> tracking.  I then proceeded to try the same thing all over again, but had 
>>> the same result.
>>> 
>>> Finally, I tried while in the html content area and whilst interacting, 
>>> obviously, to vo+twist clockwize on the trackpad to turn on trackpad 
>>> commander.  I then tried to 3 finger flick up, to see if maybe I could 
>>> somehow scroll the screen that way.  It did! say page 2 of 2, at that 
>>> point. the really! strange thing was that now, get a loada! this!  the 
>>> Voiceover cursor was still! on the same place.  Even though I'd scrolled, 
>>> apparently, the voiceover cursor remained right where it was.  still 
>>> though, just? outta chance, I did the same thing by routing the mouse, then 
>>> trying to click. Absolutely no good.  It still brought the Apple Menu up.  
>>> I did reopen ITunes, and also did restart the mac, and I did also restart 
>>> Voiceover. Absolutely nothing worked.
>>> 
>>> This is not a matter of my Voiceover settings in the voiceover utility 
>>> being set wrong, as a friend of mine on Lion with totally different 
>>> voiceover settings than myself tried the exact same thing, and had 
>>> identically the same behavior.  So not only is it that, but it's not even 
>>> an OS specific issue, as I'm on 10.6, he's on 10.7 Lion.
>>> 
>>> I've not yet reported this to
>>> 
>>> accessibility@xxxxxxxxx
>>> 
>>> but I definitely am going to, provided no one here knows a work around, or 
>>> knows any way to deal with this.
>>> 
>>> I could use my IPhone and just do it that way, then sync to my mac, but the 
>>> issue there is I don't want all these downloads on my phone.
>>> 
>>> You say, well then, just delete it off the music device playlist in your 
>>> sources list.  Well, that's all good n all, but, when I interact with the 
>>> sources list, then vo+back slash to expand my IPhone, then vo+down arrow to 
>>> the music playlist, I then stop interacting, vo+left arrow once to the 
>>> search box, type in, say... oh, I dono... we'll just say... Rockstar by 
>>> Nickleback, so I type Rockstar.  Then I vo+right arrow to the table.  I do 
>>> see it, but the check box is dimmed, for one thing in the second I think it 
>>> is, collumn.  If I hit the delete key, nothing happens, and if I 
>>> vo+shift+space, the context menu doesn't have a remove option.  Yeah, I do 
>>> sync my music with a specific playlist which I call Transfers, instead of 
>>> my whole library, as I have too much to sync everything.  even going to the 
>>> transfers playlist on the IPhone... in there, I don't even see the songs I 
>>> search for, and oddly, if I go to the actual artist playlist on the macbook 
>>> in ITunes itself, even though the song's in my library after synking my 
>>> IPhone, it's not in the local transfers playlist.  So the only thing to do 
>>> is delete it from my library, which defeats the whole entire purpose.
>>> 
>>> I'm having even worse luck in windows, with jaws 12, as that thing gives me 
>>> the virtual pc cursor, but past that, I can't tab around, nor do insert+F7 
>>> for my link's list, nor arrow around.  If I do, I just hear blank, blank, 
>>> blank.  It's like f, you, too!  LOL!  I'll blank blank blank you! in a 
>>> minute!
>>> 
>>> So yeah...  does anyone! have any? un! Godly! idea?
>>> 
>>> Please do not write back telling me, well, I add things with command+o to 
>>> get an open dialog then just do it that way.  Realize... I'm not trying to 
>>> import a song on my drive that I've already got.  If that is what you 
>>> think, then you're totally confused.  I'm not wanting to import things on 
>>> my drive. that's not even close! to what I'm doing.  I am trying again in 
>>> the actual? ITunes store! to download music which has been lost in a hard 
>>> disk crash, that I did not get the chance to first back up before 
>>> reinstalling the OS. I want to redownload things not in my library nor on 
>>> my drive which I already purchased.  I again am not an ITunes Max member, 
>>> and I don't back my stuff up to ICloud either.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any and all help.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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