>What does not seem fair here is that in presenting an issue (albeit in a hasty draft) I am being tagged as siding with one side of the issue.< I did not do that. First post: 'Let me make some intemperate remarks, with the understanding that I see Eric as mostly reporting the views, or a summary of the views, of others, with whom he may not agree--although I believe that at the end he presents what he does see as a dilemma.' Second post: 'I said before that I didn't know to what extent Eric endorsed the views he was suggesting we discuss. I still don't...' Robert Paul The Truth Circle Vienna c/o robert.paul@xxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html