[lit-ideas] Re: Roman Superstitions
- From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 06:56:29 +0100 (BST)
>It seems to be that the implicatures of 'superstitious' are notorious. The
Ancient Romans, for example, thought that the Greeks were superstitious,
while the Christians later thought that the Ancient Romans were
superstitious. And Geary thinks that Elvis Presley was superstitious.>
It may not so much be "implicatures" as this being one of those irregular verbs:
I have sincere beliefs....You have odd opinions...He has cranky
commitments...They have irrational superstitions.
Dnl
ldn
On Thursday, 22 May 2014, 23:58, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It might not be superstitious if gods demanded human sacrifices. But that seems
unlikely, at least in the theologies that hold that they can get us in
afterlife anyway.
The Aztec theology is insufficiently known, I believe, and I hardly think that
the Conquistadors were professional anthropologists.
O.K.
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Redacted sender Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx for DMARC
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A to Z.
>
>-- and the Lamb's self-sacrifice.
>
>In a message dated 5/22/2014 4:20:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes in "The Missing Link": This post failed to
>fit in
>the thread from which it descended, and so, in order to survive, has adapted
>itself to this thread.
>
>O. T. O. H., there is a current controversy on the idea of 'superstition'
>and 'sacrifice' under the thread, "The Missing Link", to which J. M. Geary
>contributed with a poem by a Danish author.
>
>D. McEvoy: "But does "closely" not come close to suggesting that the
>Europeans' God is just as much an ignorant superstition as the gods of human
>sacrifice?"
>
>O. Kusturica: "Well, it wouldn't necessarily entail suppositions about the
>existence of European or Aztek gods. Humans might be worshiping true gods
>in false or superstitious or immoral ways."
>
>It seems to be that the implicatures of 'superstitious' are notorious. The
>Ancient Romans, for example, thought that the Greeks were superstitious,
>while the Christians later thought that the Ancient Romans were
>superstitious. And Geary thinks that Elvis Presley was superstitious.
>
>Geary has written on the idea of 'sacrifice' in Christianism. The idea is
>that Jesus Christ got _sacrificed_ -- hence the symbolism of the lamb.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_of_God
>From the outset, the book of Revelation is presented as a "revelation of
>Jesus Christ" and hence the focus on the lamb as both redeemer and judge
>presents the dual role of Jesus: he redeems man through self-sacrifice, yet
>calls man to account on the day of judgment.
>
>The chain of being allows for a few missing links, even if Darwin was
>obsessed with just one.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Speranza
>
>
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