We are considering the implicatures of 'superstitious'. The Aztecs thought that the Conquistadores were an army of 'demons'. This was possibly superstitious, but on the other hand, the Conquistadores made the most of the superstition. They did NOT go, "We are not the demons, just regular soldiers". The Aztecs also identified the Conquistadores with their (the Aztecs') divinities, which was possibly also superstitious, to the Conquistadores's beliefs. To use another example (adapted from Helm): Most Ancient Romans thought that the Christians were superstitious (and illegal) and as a consequence, some Christians adopted the religion of the Romans (which the Christians possibly thought superstitious -- what, with that army of gods on Mount Olympus and their interactions with humans). When Christianism was legalised, the ideas of 'superstition' possibly varied. This was interesting enough for Vico when he later reflected on the Roman idea of 'superstition'. Now, in a message dated 5/23/2014 1:56:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I have sincere beliefs....You have odd opinions...He has cranky commitments...They have irrational superstitions. --- I would think that 'irrational', in 'irrational superstition', is adverbial in nature, and otiose at that. A 'sincere belief' is a different animal. 'Sincere' is also adverbial there. The American equivalent is 'honestly': "Honestly, I do think it will rain tomorrow". The belief is 'sincere' as opposed to the shepherd who cries 'Wolf!' to have the population THINK that he BELIEVES that there is a wolf in the neighbourhood. Although in this case, it is obvious that the shepherd does NOT hold the belief (and he is being INSINCERE in displaying behaviour _as if_ he had it). An 'odd opinion' is possibly in the eye or mind of the beholder. There are odd opinions and there are even opinions. It is possibly 'adverbial', too: "Oddly, he opines that Mars is inhabited." Ditto with 'cranky'. By taking these things as adverbials or sentence adverbials, even, we simplify their logical form: "Crankily, he is committed to some arcane mystic religion". But the topic is the nature of 'superstition', and my point was whether the implicature (or entailment) is: "I disagree with it" -- where 'superstition' amounts to some propositional content 'p'. By qualifying the superstition as 'irrational' we are allowing some superstitions to be 'rational'. Davidson would possibly say it depends on the meaning of 'reason'. The supersitious person may oddly believe that he has REASONS to hold superstitious belief 'p'. Omar K. challenged this when he hardly thinks (again a sentence adverbial, 'hardly') that the Conquistadores were professional anthropologists (vide book by British philosopher, "Rationality and relativism"). For indeed, anthropologists are well aware, when describing a culture in what they (after Pike) call "-etic" terms (rather than "-emic" terms) that they have to deal with 'reasons' they do not share as such. It is possibly the same old problem that Socrates faced when he thought he was superior to the Sophists. The Lewis/Short Latin dictionary online is helpful here: sŭperstĭtĭo, ōnis, f. super-sto; orig a standing still over or by a thing; hence, amazement, wonder, dread, esp. of the divine or supernatural. Excessive fear of the goas, unreasonable religious belief, superstition (different from religio, a proper, reasonable awe of the gods; cf.: religio veri dei cultus est, superstitio falsi, Lact. 4, 28, 11). Helpful, that is, if we ignore their equivalence: 'superstitio', 'superstition': I guess we KNEW that. Cheers Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html