[lit-ideas] Re: Griceian Numbers

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  • Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:53:01 -0400 (EDT)

>>One wonders if Witters was a mathematical philosopher.
 
McEvoy:
 
>Well, gee. So?

In "Ayer on Wittgenstein I", McEvoy quotes from Ayer:

“It would be  wrong, however, to say that he was being shown numbers in the 
way he was being  shown specimens of building materials. The difference 
lies not the different  character of the ‘objects’, but in the different roles 
that the two sorts of  signs play in the language game."

And comments,

"This conclusion,  I suggest, is Ayer’s own interpolation and not a 
paraphrase of W’s  text."

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Yet cfr. this from Stanford:  

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wittgenstein-mathematics/

"Wittgenstein  stresses that he is trying to ‘warn’ us against this‘aspect
’—the idea that the  foregoing proposition about fractions “introduces us 
to the mysteries of the  mathematical world,” which exists somewhere as a 
completed totality, awaiting  our prodding and our discoveries. The fact that 
we regard mathematical  propositions as being about mathematical objects and 
mathematical investigation  “as the exploration of these objects” is “
already mathematical alchemy,”claims  Wittgenstein (RFM V, §16), since “it is 
not possible to appeal to the meaning  [‘Bedeutung’] of the signs in 
mathematics,… because it is only mathematics that  gives them their meaning [‘
Bedeutung’].”"
 
So, it may do to interpret Ayer's criticism in terms of Witters's broader  
anti-objectual view of mathematics, as per the Stanford entry -- and all. 
(Or  not!) 
 
I append for the record the reference sections.
 
Cheers,
 
Speranza
 
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