If one adds "or not" as a qualifier to everything, does that mean we are right about everything or not? Or does it just mean that by claiming both an assertion and its negation we are not taking the risk of being wrong about anything we claim, or not? Btw, in what way may ordinary language tell us what type of ontology we need? [Without the answer ever going beyond what we might consider ordinary language?] Donal ________________________________ From: "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 13:33 Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Grice and the Four-Category Ontology The idea is that by examining our 'use' or 'natural dealings' with what Grice calls "ordinary language -- if I may be ordinary enough to call it thus", we arrive, as Popper may not have realised, at the type of ontology we need. For there is a distinction between 'flower' and 'red', and Popper's worlds-theory may find this problematic ("or not"). ---- "It may be argued that English represents a four-category ontology. Or not." --- On the other hand, Symbolic Logic alla Russell/Whitehead is more complicated. Or not." In a message dated 4/20/2013 9:44:22 A.M. UTC-02, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: There is the scene in Spinal Tap where the guitarist is explaining that while most amps only go up to 10 his goes all the way up to 11 ["that's one louder"]: in that spirit, and while acknowleding that Popper wished to avoid the term "ontology" (essentially because of its "essentialist" connatations), Popper's Worlds 1-2-3 may be regarded as a three-category ontology of sorts, but does this "ontology" possibly go way up to 11 and even beyond? Apparently so: see Popper's Emory Lectures, now published as "Knowledge and the Mind-Body Problem". Ockham might be spinning in his grave except such motion might multiply entities needlessly. --- I like the idea of "11, one louder". For the record, most credit should go to Lowe, who learned (*) at Oxford and teaches at Durham. I quote from one of his papers, below. (*: "Only the poor learn at Oxford" Arnold -- cited in Oxford Dictionary of Quoations -- of course Arnold is generalising, and, as Parmenides said, "all generalisations are dangerous if not odious, including this one -- sorry about that"). Cheers, Speranza A commentary on E. J. Lowe (University of Oxford, &c). entities | __________|__________ | | | | universals particulars | | ______|______ ______|______ | | | | | | | | properties relations | | | | | | objects tropes | ___________|__________ | | | | abstract objects concrete objects | | ______|______ ______|______ | | | | | | | | sets propositions masses organisms The distinguishing features of the four different ontological systems: ____________________________________________ | | | | | objects | universals | tropes | _______|______________|______________|______________| | | | | | | 1 | R | E/R | F | |_______|______________|______________|______________| | | | | | | 2 | F | F | E | |_______|______________|______________|______________| | | | | | | 3 | F | E/R | F | |_______|______________|______________|______________| | | | | | | 4 | F | F | F | |_______|­______________|______________|______________| Four ontological systems F = Fundamental R = Reduced E = Eliminated "We should gravitate towards the fourth system of ontology identified earlier, the system which acknowledges three distinct ontological categories as being fundamental and indispensable — the category of objects, or individual substances; the category of universals; and the category of tropes, or, as I shall henceforth prefer to call them, modes. It is then but a short step to my own variant of this system, which distinguishes between two fundamental categories of universal, one whose instances are objects and the other whose instances are modes. This distinction is mirrored in language by the distinction between sortal and adjectival general terms — that is, between such general terms as 'planet' and 'flower' on the one hand and such general terms as 'red' and 'round' on the other." "The former denote kinds of object, while the latter denote properties of objects.". "The four-category ontology ...provides, I believe, a uniquely satisfactory metaphysical foundation for natural science." "The figure that I draw below helps to highlight the main structural features of the four-category ontology." "In this diagram we use the term 'attribute' to denote the category of property-universals and, for simplicity of presentation, we are ignoring (as Geary does not) relational universals. 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