In a message dated 3/13/2015 6:21:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes in "Re: Some Gettier examples": Donal Logician to the stars The implication (or implicature) of 'to the stars' seems to be that McEvoy suggests that a formalisation of the Gettier alleged counterexamples is the way to go. Here is its natural formalization: "Smith is justified in believing that p" can be formalized as “for some t, t:P” "Smith deduces Q from P" can be rephrased as: “there is a deduction of P !Q (available to Smith)”; "Smith is justified in believing Q" — “t:Q for some t.” Such a rule holds for the so-called Logic of Proofs, as well as for all other Justification Logic systems. After all, epistemic logic is a branch of modal logic, and it is interesting that if Gettier never published on this, he taught on this -- a simplified semantics for modal logic. Hintikka speaks of two modalities relevant here: epistemic modality, and doxastic modality -- there are others. The rule above is a combination of The Internalization Rule: if ` F, ` s:F for some s and The Application Axiom: s:(P !Q)!(t:P !(s·t):Q). Indeed, suppose t:P and there is a deduction of P !Q. By the Internalization Rule, s:(P !Q) for some s. From the Application Axiom, by Modus Ponens twice, we get (s·t):Q. But Gettier already KNEW that? -- and I'm hoping he even supplied a more simplified version for it! Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html