G. E. Moore, famously claimed that it is contradictory to *state* "it rains and I do not believe it* or semi-formally "p & I do not believe [that] p" L. Horn has massive amount of work on the sybject. what notion of contradiction is used? a performative one since it is consistent (in any model0 to say that "p & x does not believe [that] p" best regardsOn Sat, 30 May 2009, Donal McEvoy wrote:
--- On Sat, 30/5/09, palma <palma@xxxxxxxx> wrote:From: palma <palma@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Can, logically, there be any such thing as a "performative contradiction"? To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 5:23 PM yes, the best cases are Moore-paradoxesAh. Yes. _Those_. Might be more helpful if an example were given and suggestion of what 'concept' of "performative" and "contradiction" is being used (as, say, in my post). I mean, G.E. Moore?you may want to see the work by L. Horn on the matterThen again...and bear in mind my library is not stocked with any Moore or Horn. For all I know this post simply sends me on a wild goose chase. And I feel like I've just got back from one recently. Donal Turning stones only on a need-to-know basis at the moment Englandcheerio On Sat, 30 May 2009, Donal McEvoy wrote:Of course, it may depend how far or little we stretchthe idea of a "performative" and a "contradiction".But taking as a central case of a performativeutterance those statements that lawyers admit as 'original evidence' e.g. "I do" in marriage, "I accept" in contract. Such out-of-court statements are not hearsay of accepting the marriage or other contract but are constitutive of that acceptance - hence they are "performative" utterances. In this sense of "performative", how could such an utterance ever be a "contradiction" (or at odds with itself), where this would seem to imply that it at once constituted and did not constitute the relevant act of acceptance?The utterance "I do because father-in-law-to-be has ashotgun at my back" , or "I accept because otherwise Luca Brasi will ensure it is my brains on the contract", do not constitute genuine acceptance and so do not, in any strict sense, amount to a performative contradiction - rather they are imperfect or counterfeit or surrogate, or whatever, performatives.They fall short of being genuine performatives and socannot amount to a "performative contradiction".Donal Too much time on my (F.A.Cup watching, if you must)handsAware W.O. was perhaps being humourously playful inhis previous use of "performative contradiction" and/or deploying a widened concept of "performative" and "contradiction"; and hoping he took only an acceptable level of offence at my previous animadversionsFinal whistle - o, god.. Next on this weary day - Britain's Got Talent------------------------------------------------------------------To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub,vacation on/off,digest on/off), visitwww.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ?e ?ÿÿ, ?????e?? ?a?eda?µ?????? ? ? ? ?t? t?de ?e?µe?a, t??? ?e???? ??µas? pe???µe???. /begin/read__>sig.file: postal address palma University of KwaZulu-Natal Philosophy 3rd floor of Memorial Tower Building Howard College Campus Durban 4041 South Africa Tel off: [+27] 031 2601591 (sec: Mrs. Yolanda Hordyk) [+27] 031-2602292 Fax [+27] 031-2603031 mobile 07 62 36 23 91 calling from overseas +[27] 76 2362391 EMAIL: palma@xxxxxxxx EMAIL: palma@xxxxxxxxxx MY OFFICE IS A290@Mtb *only when in Europe*: inst. J. Nicod 29 rue d'Ulm f-75005 paris france email me for details if needed at palma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________ This e-mail message (and attachments) is confidential, and/or privileged and is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail you must not copy, distribute, take any action in reliance on it or disclose it to anyone. Any confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. This entity is not responsible for any information not related to the business of this entity. If you received this e-mail in error please destroy the original and notify the sender.------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html
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