Eric, This isn't the best climate to discuss your concerns. Mike doesn't attack Ahmadinejad, only Bush. He doesn't attack what the Pasdaran are doing, only our military, etc., etc.; which is to say that even though he makes a number of Islamist arguments, he probably isn't one; which means he probably isn't interested in a reasonable discussion or argument. I suspect we agree that Bush's Foreign Policy has been a good one. The more I read, the more reasons I find for that view. So in terms of Foreign Policy Bush is the wise and courageous leader. I realize some people will prefer Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani to Bush, but perhaps they won't read this. I don't think we can utterly set Domestic Policy aside in viewing Bush's Foreign Policy. If the economy weren't kept strong, he would be hampered to some extent in his Foreign Policy. When you call him "high-spending," do you remove the military portion to look at the other expenditures? If we weren't at war, would Bush still be a "high-spending Calvin Coolidge"? I haven't been following the domestic side of the Bush policy to any significant extent, but that's not my impression. As to the tax shelters that help the rich, as obnoxious as that seems, there is truth to the trickle-down business. We have seen lots of trickle-down in the U.S., and lots of emphasis upon entitlements in such places as France, and the trickle-down man in the street may be doing better than the Frenchman with entitlements France doesn't seem able to afford. Our economy was in better shape than any other major economy the last time I checked. Maybe he isn't doing much leading in the domestic realm, but if out economy is better than any other, maybe he ought to leave it alone. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:33 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Bush's domestic tsunami and a question Mike: Mistake? You can't use the word "mistake" in reference to the Bush Foreign Policy -- that's like calling the Indonesian tsunami a high tide. Bush's biggest mistakes have always been domestic policy mistakes. Outside the country, he can fly by the seat of his pants, innovate, experiment, fine-tune, provoke, intimidate, infuriate, advance, retract, and take the big gamble. At home, he is a high-spending Calvin Coolidge who does nothing to stop corporate tax shelters, and allows his party and important domestic agencies to be pirated by hacks who would make Ulysses Grant blush. Out of fear of "the Japan scenario," he allows state governments to float in red ink. So padlocked into the confines of his Reagan-era ideology, he has no vision of domestic leadership. He gets pulled into energy conservation by Wall Street and into environmental restraint by his Fundamentalist constituents. He has no compass, no oar, and no rudder. So--if anyone has read this far--a different question, one between presidents' personal leadership skills and their political ideologies. _______ Imagine there's an election. One candidate espouses your fondest hopes, values, and political aspirations; yet he (or she) has no imagination or leadership ability, no managerial skill and no guts. The other candidate proclaims an ideology you despise; yet she (or he) is brainy and tough, knows how to manage complex groups, is courageous and inspiring, albeit for the wrong reasons. So who's your choice? Do you pick bad government based on an ideological point of view you support? Or good government in service of an ideology you loathe? Don't rush to answer. Can a bad leader with the right ideals do more damage than a good leader with the wrong ideals? Not that we have such a choice. But the problem interests me. Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html