Shall we count the fallacies, contradictions and self-contradictions populating MG's post below? Anything over 6 wins a 750ml. bottle of Oban. Walter O. MUN Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > No, I'm not talking about fads. I'm talking about beliefs. Beliefs are all > > we have. We acquire our beliefs through our culture. On a universal scale, > > no one belief has a more morally privileged standing than any other, just as > > no culture has a more morally privileged standing. What I have just written > > is not the Truth, it is a belief that there is no such thing as Truth. That > > is not to say that there is no such thing as truth. We hold to certain > beliefs because we believe them to be true. You may believe there is Truth > out there, but until you can prove it incontrovertibly, it's just another > belief. Those who believe that there is no Truth believe that as a truth, > but at the same time believe that it could possibly be erroneous and would > amend the belief, given incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. But I > can't imagine what kind of evidence could ever be brought forth to prove > some belief a Truth. > > Mike Geary > speaking the truth > in Memphis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:33 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Anti-Humanism & Its Enemies > > > > Mike: A belief is true if enough people within a given culture agree that > > it's true -- true for the culture, that is, for as long as that consensus > > holds and shapes the behavior and aspirations of the culture. > > > > > > I think you're talking about a fad. Like bell bottoms. If enough people > > within a given culture agree that bell bottoms are cool, impressionable > > young guys will go out and buy bell bottoms in order to get laid. > > > > If they get laid copiously, they will probably wear bell bottoms for the > > rest of their lives, since guys generally tend to dress in the fashion > > that was popular the last time they were truly happy. (That's a truth by > > the way.) > > > > Mike: Can truth change? > > > > Only if it's a fad. As ad people know, the best way to kill an idea or > > trend is to make it into a fad. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html