[lit-ideas] Re: Anti-Humanism & Its Enemies

  • From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:10:46 -0330

Shall we count the fallacies, contradictions and self-contradictions populating
MG's post below? Anything over 6 wins a 750ml. bottle of Oban.

Walter O.
MUN



Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> No, I'm not talking about fads.  I'm talking about beliefs.  Beliefs are all
> 
> we have.  We acquire our beliefs through our culture.  On a universal scale,
> 
> no one belief has a more morally privileged standing than any other, just as
> 
> no culture has a more morally privileged standing.  What I have just written
> 
> is not the Truth, it is a belief that there is no such thing as Truth.  That
> 
> is not to say that there is no such thing as truth.  We hold to certain 
> beliefs because we believe them to be true.  You may believe there is Truth 
> out there, but until you can prove it incontrovertibly, it's just another 
> belief.  Those who believe that there is no Truth believe that as a truth, 
> but at the same time believe that it could  possibly be erroneous and would 
> amend the belief, given incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.  But I 
> can't imagine what kind of evidence could ever be brought forth to prove 
> some belief a Truth.
> 
> Mike Geary
> speaking the truth
> in Memphis
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:33 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Anti-Humanism & Its Enemies
> 
> 
> > Mike: A belief is true if enough people within a given culture agree that 
> > it's true -- true for the culture, that is, for as long as that consensus 
> > holds and shapes the behavior and aspirations of the culture.
> >
> >
> > I think you're talking about a fad. Like bell bottoms. If enough people 
> > within a given culture agree that bell bottoms are cool, impressionable 
> > young guys will go out and buy bell bottoms in order to get laid.
> >
> > If they get laid copiously, they will probably wear bell bottoms for the 
> > rest of their lives, since guys generally tend to dress in the fashion 
> > that was popular the last time they were truly happy. (That's a truth by 
> > the way.)
> >
> > Mike:  Can truth change?
> >
> > Only if it's a fad. As ad people know, the best way to kill an idea or 
> > trend is to make it into a fad.
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