________________________________ From: David Ritchie <profdritchie@xxxxxxxxx> "Now he [Dylan] sounds like a Rolling Stone singing Immanuel Kant." >Searched my memory banks, trying to make sense of this metaphor. Nope. Imo, David is right to treat this metaphor with caution. Its sense is perhaps no more than this (a) Kant = something profound and difficult and abstruse intellectually, so it is like those oiks in the Rolling Stones singing something intellectually profound etc. (b) there is something incongruous about this. It is a poor metaphor if taken seriously, for in H61R Dylan is not seeking to be more profound, difficult or abstruse intellectually than the folk and blues tradition from which he is drawing his strength:- though widely thought, it is more a matter of appearance than reality if Dylan appears to express himself in a difficult or abstruse way - for while he is more difficult and abstruse than the typical 'popular song', he is not much more abstruse than folk or blues, since the reality is that folk and blues often work with a kind of coded language that is perhaps not clear to the uninitiated (a particularly ripe example is how sexual desire and mores and acts are expressed, even in something as innocent sounding as Hares On The Mountain; a ballad like Matty Groves is a typically coded critique of the loveless hypocrisy and cruelty of the powers-that-be). Dylan takes this to further levels of complexity and development of form and expression, framing his language in the codes of contemporary slang and 'cultural references'; but it is a mistake to take his POV as intellectually superior, or seeking to be - it is more a matter of artistic and moral development of the form. The achievement of H61R remains artistic and moral rather than intellectual. For example, to view Like A Rolling Stone as Dylan speaking down from a position of intellectual superiority [a common impression] is to mistake the POV of that song which is that everyone is like a complete unknown, on their own, a rolling stone etc. [i.e. the outlook of ancient folk and blues is here correct]; and the excoriated mistake - moral and intellectual - is to think you are or should be one of the "pretty people, drinkin', thinkin' they got it made". Throughout H61R Dylan uses the persona of a cynical streetwise hipster to attack cynicism and hipsterism as well as a host of other false idols; to unmask that "you're just like me/I hope you're satisfied" as he put it later in Memphis Blues. One of the reasons Dylan's view remains fresh is that, at the point he was the most important single voice of the counter-culture, he was railing against the counter-culture's own self-importance, pretension, self-deception and snobbery - as much as against the straitjacket, hypocrisy and corruption of straight society. What is intellectually alert, and morally alert, is that Dylan's art confronts how difficult it is not be corrupted either from within or without - and in this way these songs are politically more serious than some of his earlier protest songs in avoiding the suggestion that there are pat solutions to our problems or that moral wrongs arise from a 'them' being bad to 'us' etc. We might debate whether Dylan paints in an overly pessimistic way on H61R, but at least he cannot be accused of naive optimism or finger-pointing. Among the things that happened was that Dylan's impact led to 'message-hunting' in his lyrics of a vain kind ["Who is Mr. Jones?" etc.], and that a song like Desolation Row offered much more material for the poseur than How Much Is That Doggy In The Window? [albeit post-modernism may have led the poseur to latterly argue Doggy is in fact better, on every level, than Row]. These things weren't Dylan's fault and they cut against both the intent and immense achievement that is H61R, which happened to be in the eye of fashion but was putting a POV that was against the fashionable, the "phoney" and the corruption of chasing false idols. Michael Gray's description gets it right in pointing out how Dylan was allying the poetic power of folk and blues idioms with the raw energy of rock and roll: it was a great alliance but no one had done it before and no one has surpassed it. At a time when many self-imposed barriers existed in music, it opened the door to many other important 'alliances' that came after [some also became fashions] from psychedelia to country-rock to punk. What is staggering is how undated/contemporary H61R seems: from its opening salvo against the complacency of its likely audience to a world where merchants "heave their plastic" or the "blind commisioner" has "one hand..in his pants". That last line is from Desolation Row which begins:- They're selling postcards of the hanging They're painting the passports brown The beauty parlor's filled with sailors The circus is in town Whether this is poetry or not, it is better use of language than the vast majority of poetry: to those who feel it is sixth-form poetasting and clumsy surrealism, they should at least know it moves from historical fact when it speaks of "selling postcards of the hanging", as indeed they did at the last lynching near to where Bob Dylan grew up in Hibbing, Minnesota. Not so incongruous then. Donal Almost losing his thread London