** Mailing-List Indonesia Nasional Milis PPI-India www.ppi-india.da.ru ** Do christianity and judaism truly offer women a better treatment than=20 islam does? i think, its not easy to search for and find answers (to these=20 difficult questions). the first difficulty is the one has to be fair=20 and objective. --- In ppiindia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Carla Annamarie=20 <Carla.Annamarie@xxxx> wrote: >=20 > i think in many middle east countries where they re bound with=20 customs and > traditions which men is the ruler, the superior-being and women is=20 only > men's property, women is a weaker being (inferior) not an equal=20 partner.., > since childhood her rights re determined by her familly (Father and > brothers), her familly will arrange her marriage with someone that=20 she's > barely knew.., and after the married her husband is the sole=20 proprietor of > her.., womens have a very fragile status, she's not protected under=20 law, > bcs according to law her husband is her protector, so if she got=20 divorce, > things becomes worse bcs socially she's an outcast from her familly=20 and her > social community, dont ever think abt child support from the=20 husband..it's > impossible, even she has to fight her right to keep her child.., > if many of them works indecent job liked a belly dancer..bcs they=20 re lack > or less opportunity for them for a good job..esp bcs they re a=20 divorcee..in > spite of that i admire them..bcs despite of terrible things that=20 happened > to them, they survived.. > perhaps they can never be strong enough to handle it by them=20 self..but in > my point of view they can do better..they prove it that they really=20 can do > better..without men..:)).. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > = =20 = =20 > "Ambon" = =20 = =20 > <sea@xxxx> To: <Undisclosed- Recipient:;> = =20 > = =20 cc: = =20 > 03/23/2005 02:45 Subject:=20=20 [ppiindia] 'You can never be strong enough'=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 AM = =20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > Please respond=20 to = =20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 ppiindia = =20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > = =20 = =20 > = =20 = =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > 17 - 23 March 2005 > Issue No. 734 > Living >=20 > Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/734/li1.htm >=20 > 'You can never be strong enough' > As the number of single mothers continues to rise, Serene=20 Assir > listens to accounts of tragedy, hope and heroism >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Click to view caption > Dina Sarhan explaining the fine points of cooking > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > Egyptian tradition is such that few things are worse than=20 being a > single woman -- except, perhaps, being a single mother. And though=20 cases of > unmarried women single-handedly raising children remain rare in=20 Egypt, > those of divorced or widowed women bearing the economic, social and > emotional brunt of parenthood are countless. Many take on the role=20 of both > parents while the father moves in with a second wife, serves a=20 prison > sentence, works abroad or completes up to three years of military=20 draft. >=20 > "Problems are particularly acute in the case of women=20 raising > children in economically depressed areas," Mona Shadi, programme > coordinator for the Association for the Development and Enhancement=20 of > Women (ADEW) told Al-Ahram Weekly. "The women we reach out to often=20 lack > all the basic guarantees to which the state entitles them. Many=20 cannot read > or write, many others lack identity cards since they are registered=20 under > the name of their former husbands, and thus they have no access at=20 all to > the authorities -- never mind the ability to seek help." >=20 > "This world is a dirty place," 23-year-old Ashraqat, mother=20 of > Shurouq, says with a mixture of fervour and despair. Ashraqat=20 discovered > she was pregnant one month after signing her divorce papers,=20 following a > brief but abusive stint of wedlock, during which her husband took=20 advantage > of her economically even as he forced social restrictions on her.=20 Now, she > lives in Cairo, having left her native village of Bilbis in the=20 Sharqiya > district, but earns her living as a belly dancer in Hurghada=20 nightclubs, > where she can work without the necessary documentation. >=20 > "I remember when he used to promise me we would make our=20 dreams > come true," she told the Weekly. "Now I know the truth." (While we=20 have > this conversation in a traditional coffee house, the owner shakes=20 his head > at me disapprovingly, walking by; later he tells me off for sitting=20 with > someone so "low"). >=20 > Ashraqat went to school up to the age of 14, and was dancing > professionally by 15. The man she loved came from a better-off=20 family, so > when she was married she imagined she would no longer have to dance=20 (or > otherwise employ her body) to make a living. "But my husband would=20 bring > clients into the house, then take the money afterwards. I had=20 everything I > could possibly want, I even had a really nice mobile phone, but he=20 took > control of my life and made me do things I didn't want to do. >=20 > "By the time I discovered I was pregnant it was too late.=20 When I > told my mother, she beat me -- she'd been against the marriage=20 since the > beginning. But she was to forgive me later on, and now she helps=20 me. My > father, well -- he treats me and my daughter like strangers. That's=20 okay. I > don't need anyone, I can manage without. Now you ask me whether I'd=20 do it > all over again? No. I'd marry the person my parents choose, someone=20 with > money. It wouldn't matter whether I loved him or not. This is no=20 life..." >=20 > This bitterness, the sense of being excluded, Shadi=20 explains, tend > to be incorporated into the way single mothers bring up their=20 daughters -- > an added problem. As if to confirm this, Ashraqat explains=20 that "what I > teach my daughter is this: If someone picks on you, hit him. You=20 can never > be strong enough." ADEW seeks to address this issue by holding=20 programmes > for children as well as mothers, Shadi goes on to point out: "We=20 frequently > succeed, but just as frequently we fail." >=20 > Ashraqat's experience, though an extreme example, remains=20 broadly > relevant. "As a divorc=A8=A6e," she explains, "I am desired by many=20 men, because > they know that I am not a virgin, and as a result they think I'm an=20 easy > target. But everything I do," she pleads, "I swear, though I know=20 dancing > is sinful -- I do it for Shurouq, so that when she grows up she has=20 all the > things that I didn't have. I love her..." >=20 > Such an attitude of self-sacrifice is seen across the=20 board. It may > be innate in all mothers, but it stands out with particular force=20 in those > who undergo the most painful trials. "When the children's father=20 passed > away," Um Sherif, 67, tells the Weekly, "my life was already=20 difficult > enough. God, I had 14 children to take care of!" Eight were hers,=20 the rest > her husband's -- by his first wife. "The youngest was just two=20 years old. > Now," she says, "they all have homes of their own, and they are all=20 happy." >=20 > Um Sherif lives in a semi-agricultural area deep within one=20 of > Cairo's poorer districts. She can neither read nor write, but three=20 of her > sons are electronic engineers in the Gulf, and two work in=20 respectable > businesses in Cairo. >=20 > Hers is an impressive case: She fought against all odds to=20 raise > her children, and she managed extraordinarily well. A strong woman,=20 she is > proud of her achievements. "I never accepted help from anyone. I=20 knew that > if my children were to be happy, I would have to do it all by=20 myself. I > thought of remarrying, but when I saw how prospective husbands=20 would seek > to interfere in the upbringing of my children, I decided against=20 it." >=20 > But according to social perceptions, it is a misfortune for=20 a woman > to remain unmarried. "Yes dear," Um Sherif says, defiantly, "but if=20 you > listen to what people say, you'll find it impossible to breathe. I=20 learned > this very early on in life. People love to interfere, but in order=20 to > survive you must do what you feel is right." >=20 > That said, social prejudice cannot be ignored as a negative=20 factor > in the lives of single mothers. "My sister is a teacher," Mervat=20 told the > Weekly, "and has always been well-to-do. She divorced her husband=20 following > an unhappy marriage, and brought up her son and daughter=20 comfortably, > without experiencing pressure from anyone. It was her son who turned > against her in the end -- once he married, he started despising her, > cursing the fact that she chose to live independently." >=20 > Yet the principal problem seems to stem from an area beyond=20 the > social, strictly speaking. A woman raising children on her own is a=20 woman > without support in Egypt, and though this is increasingly=20 acceptable at the > social level -- women gain in respect, particularly, as they grow=20 older -- > bureaucratic issues stand in the way of true emancipation. Tasks as=20 banal > as renting a flat become a problem because business deals are=20 usually made > with men. Registering a child under the mother's name remains=20 legally > impossible. >=20 > "And now," Ashraqat says, about to set out for=20 Hurghada, "I've got > to make sure I'm ready for the big lie: When the policeman wakes me=20 up > while we're on the bus to ask for my ID, I'm just going to have to=20 pretend > I'm too exhausted to fetch it. And as I'm not wearing any makeup,=20 he'll > hopefully be taken in by the innocence of my expression. Let's just=20 pray > he'll leave me alone." >=20 > Shurouq looks beautiful in the photographs Ashraqat shows=20 me. 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