[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters

  • From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:04:06 -0500

Mike,


Windows has a way of doing things like that. It thinks it knows better 
than you do, and it likes to promote Microsoft's proprietary file 
formats.

John

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:22:19AM -0700, Mike Sivill wrote:
> John, I don't know how my attachment is coming through that way, I'm not
> doing anything differently than I've ever done, sending you files. Is
> anything different on your end?
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
> Boyer
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:15 PM
> To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> 
> the attachment is another winmail.dat file. I wonder how this is
> happening.
> 
> John
> 
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 03:38:39PM -0500, Jeff Dittel wrote:
> > Excellent.  Thanks for your help.  
> > 
> > I added the book end 9's to the arrows that didn't have them, and added
> the
> > missing barb indicators to the NemethDefs.cti file.  John, should I send
> > this to you to put into the next version?  Or, should I just keep this and
> > manage it for my stuff?  
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > Jeff Dittel, President
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Britlan, Ltd.
> > 516 East Birch Avenue
> > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217
> > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281
> > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > _____________________________________________ > > From:
> liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On Behalf Of Mike
> > > Sivill
> > > Sent:     Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:25 PM
> > > To:       liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject:  [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > > 
> > > Yes, according to the rule that's how it should be.
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > _____________________________________________
> > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff
> > > Dittel
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:01 PM
> > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > > 
> > > Mike,
> > > 
> > > OK, what you have in the NemethMath.cti is:
> > > 
> > > math \X21CC 1246-25-25-4-135-1246-246-25-25 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON OVER
> > > LEFTWARDS HARPOON 
> > > 
> > > There is no dot 6 to indicate the bottom arrow barb, so should this line
> > > be: 
> > > 
> > > math \X21CC 9-1246-25-25-4-135-1246-6-246-25-25-9 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON
> OVER
> > > LEFTWARDS HARPOON 
> > > 
> > > Thanks again for your help,
> > > 
> > > Jeff
> > > 
> > > Jeff Dittel, President
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Britlan, Ltd.
> > > 516 East Birch Avenue
> > > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217
> > > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281
> > > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _____________________________________________ 
> > > From:     liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On Behalf Of Mike
> > > Sivill
> > > Sent:     Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:20 PM
> > > To:       liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject:  [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > > 
> > > Hi Jeff, 
> > > 
> > > The Nemeth book I am using is the publication year 1988 by APH. It is in
> 5
> > > volumes and has a chapter just on constructing arrows. It has this type
> of
> > > barb listed this way: dot 4 signifies that the top half of the barb is
> > > present while dot 6 signifies the bottom half. Maybe you have a newer
> > > revision but it seems that something should indicate that it is a
> harpoon
> > > and not a full arrow point. 
> > > 
> > > Dot 9 is set as a virtual dot so LibLouis knows that is either a space
> or
> > > a string boundary. In this particular entry I think I just forgot to put
> > > the dot 9's on.
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > _____________________________________________
> > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff
> > > Dittel
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:03 AM
> > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mike,
> > > 
> > > I got your file, and have a couple of questions on the arrows I am using
> > > for chemical reactions.  Here are the two lines in your file which I
> have
> > > questions:
> > > 
> > > math \x2192 9-1246-135-9 RIGHTWARDS ARROW 
> > > 
> > > Why is the Braille symbol have book ends of 9 rather than 0?  I assume
> > > that 0 means a space.  What does 9 mean?
> > > 
> > > math \X21CC 1246-25-25-4-135-1246-246-25-25 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON OVER
> > > LEFTWARDS HARPOON 
> > > 
> > > Why does this arrow not have 9 or 0 at the beginning and end?  
> > > Is the dot 4 correct between the right and left harpoon Braille
> > > translation?  From what I have read in the Nemeth book there should be
> no
> > > dot 4 there.  
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > > 
> > > Jeff
> > > 
> > > Jeff Dittel, President
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Britlan, Ltd.
> > > 516 East Birch Avenue
> > > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217
> > > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281
> > > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _____________________________________________ 
> > > From:     liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On Behalf Of Mike
> > > Sivill
> > > Sent:     Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:33 AM
> > > To:       liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject:  [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > > 
> > > Greetings,
> > > I have a table that has all of these symbols defined.  I will attach it
> to
> > > this message and you should just replace the pre-existing one in the
> > > tables directory. The filename is nemethdefs.cti
> > > Mike << File: nemethdefs.cti >> 
> > > 
> > > _____________________________________________
> > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff
> > > Dittel
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:33 PM
> > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] New characters
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I am trying to translate simple chemical reactions, which standard
> Nemeth
> > > addresses.  It seems that the Braille translation for the yield and
> > > equilibrium symbols are not defined.  Could someone tell me all the
> places
> > > I need to add these two characters?  The Braille and XML character codes
> > > are:
> > > 
> > > Yield:
> > > &#x2192; dots 1246-135
> > > Equilibrium:
> > > &#x21CC; dots 1246-25-25-135-1246-246-25-25
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Jeff
> > > 
> > > Jeff Dittel, President
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Britlan, Ltd.
> > > 516 East Birch Avenue
> > > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217
> > > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281
> > > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> 
> 
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