[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters

  • From: "Mike Sivill" <mike.sivill@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:22:19 -0700

John, I don't know how my attachment is coming through that way, I'm not
doing anything differently than I've ever done, sending you files. Is
anything different on your end?
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
Boyer
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:15 PM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters

the attachment is another winmail.dat file. I wonder how this is
happening.

John

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 03:38:39PM -0500, Jeff Dittel wrote:
> Excellent.  Thanks for your help.  
> 
> I added the book end 9's to the arrows that didn't have them, and added
the
> missing barb indicators to the NemethDefs.cti file.  John, should I send
> this to you to put into the next version?  Or, should I just keep this and
> manage it for my stuff?  
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Jeff Dittel, President
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Britlan, Ltd.
> 516 East Birch Avenue
> Whitefish Bay, WI 53217
> jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> U.S. Office: (414)962-2281
> Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574
> 
> 
> 
> > _____________________________________________ > > From:
liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On Behalf Of Mike
> > Sivill
> > Sent:       Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:25 PM
> > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:    [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > 
> > Yes, according to the rule that's how it should be.
> > Mike
> > 
> > _____________________________________________
> > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff
> > Dittel
> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:01 PM
> > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > 
> > Mike,
> > 
> > OK, what you have in the NemethMath.cti is:
> > 
> > math \X21CC 1246-25-25-4-135-1246-246-25-25 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON OVER
> > LEFTWARDS HARPOON 
> > 
> > There is no dot 6 to indicate the bottom arrow barb, so should this line
> > be: 
> > 
> > math \X21CC 9-1246-25-25-4-135-1246-6-246-25-25-9 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON
OVER
> > LEFTWARDS HARPOON 
> > 
> > Thanks again for your help,
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > Jeff Dittel, President
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Britlan, Ltd.
> > 516 East Birch Avenue
> > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217
> > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281
> > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____________________________________________ 
> > From:       liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On Behalf Of Mike
> > Sivill
> > Sent:       Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:20 PM
> > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:    [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > 
> > Hi Jeff, 
> > 
> > The Nemeth book I am using is the publication year 1988 by APH. It is in
5
> > volumes and has a chapter just on constructing arrows. It has this type
of
> > barb listed this way: dot 4 signifies that the top half of the barb is
> > present while dot 6 signifies the bottom half. Maybe you have a newer
> > revision but it seems that something should indicate that it is a
harpoon
> > and not a full arrow point. 
> > 
> > Dot 9 is set as a virtual dot so LibLouis knows that is either a space
or
> > a string boundary. In this particular entry I think I just forgot to put
> > the dot 9's on.
> > Mike
> > 
> > _____________________________________________
> > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff
> > Dittel
> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:03 AM
> > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > 
> > 
> > Mike,
> > 
> > I got your file, and have a couple of questions on the arrows I am using
> > for chemical reactions.  Here are the two lines in your file which I
have
> > questions:
> > 
> > math \x2192 9-1246-135-9 RIGHTWARDS ARROW 
> > 
> > Why is the Braille symbol have book ends of 9 rather than 0?  I assume
> > that 0 means a space.  What does 9 mean?
> > 
> > math \X21CC 1246-25-25-4-135-1246-246-25-25 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON OVER
> > LEFTWARDS HARPOON 
> > 
> > Why does this arrow not have 9 or 0 at the beginning and end?  
> > Is the dot 4 correct between the right and left harpoon Braille
> > translation?  From what I have read in the Nemeth book there should be
no
> > dot 4 there.  
> > 
> > Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > Jeff Dittel, President
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Britlan, Ltd.
> > 516 East Birch Avenue
> > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217
> > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281
> > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____________________________________________ 
> > From:       liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On Behalf Of Mike
> > Sivill
> > Sent:       Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:33 AM
> > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:    [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > I have a table that has all of these symbols defined.  I will attach it
to
> > this message and you should just replace the pre-existing one in the
> > tables directory. The filename is nemethdefs.cti
> > Mike << File: nemethdefs.cti >> 
> > 
> > _____________________________________________
> > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff
> > Dittel
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:33 PM
> > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] New characters
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am trying to translate simple chemical reactions, which standard
Nemeth
> > addresses.  It seems that the Braille translation for the yield and
> > equilibrium symbols are not defined.  Could someone tell me all the
places
> > I need to add these two characters?  The Braille and XML character codes
> > are:
> > 
> > Yield:
> > &#x2192; dots 1246-135
> > Equilibrium:
> > &#x21CC; dots 1246-25-25-135-1246-246-25-25
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > Jeff Dittel, President
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Britlan, Ltd.
> > 516 East Birch Avenue
> > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217
> > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281
> > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574
> > 
> > 



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