John, I don't know how my attachment is coming through that way, I'm not doing anything differently than I've ever done, sending you files. Is anything different on your end? Mike -----Original Message----- From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:15 PM To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters the attachment is another winmail.dat file. I wonder how this is happening. John On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 03:38:39PM -0500, Jeff Dittel wrote: > Excellent. Thanks for your help. > > I added the book end 9's to the arrows that didn't have them, and added the > missing barb indicators to the NemethDefs.cti file. John, should I send > this to you to put into the next version? Or, should I just keep this and > manage it for my stuff? > > Jeff > > Jeff Dittel, President > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Britlan, Ltd. > 516 East Birch Avenue > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217 > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281 > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574 > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike > > Sivill > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:25 PM > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters > > > > Yes, according to the rule that's how it should be. > > Mike > > > > _____________________________________________ > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff > > Dittel > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:01 PM > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters > > > > Mike, > > > > OK, what you have in the NemethMath.cti is: > > > > math \X21CC 1246-25-25-4-135-1246-246-25-25 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON OVER > > LEFTWARDS HARPOON > > > > There is no dot 6 to indicate the bottom arrow barb, so should this line > > be: > > > > math \X21CC 9-1246-25-25-4-135-1246-6-246-25-25-9 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON OVER > > LEFTWARDS HARPOON > > > > Thanks again for your help, > > > > Jeff > > > > Jeff Dittel, President > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Britlan, Ltd. > > 516 East Birch Avenue > > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217 > > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx > > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281 > > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574 > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike > > Sivill > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:20 PM > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > The Nemeth book I am using is the publication year 1988 by APH. It is in 5 > > volumes and has a chapter just on constructing arrows. It has this type of > > barb listed this way: dot 4 signifies that the top half of the barb is > > present while dot 6 signifies the bottom half. Maybe you have a newer > > revision but it seems that something should indicate that it is a harpoon > > and not a full arrow point. > > > > Dot 9 is set as a virtual dot so LibLouis knows that is either a space or > > a string boundary. In this particular entry I think I just forgot to put > > the dot 9's on. > > Mike > > > > _____________________________________________ > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff > > Dittel > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:03 AM > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters > > > > > > Mike, > > > > I got your file, and have a couple of questions on the arrows I am using > > for chemical reactions. Here are the two lines in your file which I have > > questions: > > > > math \x2192 9-1246-135-9 RIGHTWARDS ARROW > > > > Why is the Braille symbol have book ends of 9 rather than 0? I assume > > that 0 means a space. What does 9 mean? > > > > math \X21CC 1246-25-25-4-135-1246-246-25-25 RIGHTWARDS HARPOON OVER > > LEFTWARDS HARPOON > > > > Why does this arrow not have 9 or 0 at the beginning and end? > > Is the dot 4 correct between the right and left harpoon Braille > > translation? From what I have read in the Nemeth book there should be no > > dot 4 there. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Jeff > > > > Jeff Dittel, President > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Britlan, Ltd. > > 516 East Birch Avenue > > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217 > > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx > > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281 > > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574 > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike > > Sivill > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:33 AM > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: New characters > > > > Greetings, > > I have a table that has all of these symbols defined. I will attach it to > > this message and you should just replace the pre-existing one in the > > tables directory. The filename is nemethdefs.cti > > Mike << File: nemethdefs.cti >> > > > > _____________________________________________ > > From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff > > Dittel > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:33 PM > > To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] New characters > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to translate simple chemical reactions, which standard Nemeth > > addresses. It seems that the Braille translation for the yield and > > equilibrium symbols are not defined. Could someone tell me all the places > > I need to add these two characters? The Braille and XML character codes > > are: > > > > Yield: > > → dots 1246-135 > > Equilibrium: > > ⇌ dots 1246-25-25-135-1246-246-25-25 > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeff > > > > Jeff Dittel, President > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Britlan, Ltd. > > 516 East Birch Avenue > > Whitefish Bay, WI 53217 > > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx > > U.S. Office: (414)962-2281 > > Costa Rica Office: (414)290-0574 > > > > -- John J. boyer; President, Chief Software Developer JJB Software, Inc. http://www.jjb-software.com Madison, WI USA Developing software for people with disabilities For a description of the software and to download it go to http://www.jjb-software.com For a description of the software and to download it go to http://www.jjb-software.com