Good afternoon,
I have never posted to this list before, so my apologies if I should
not be chiming in at this juncture, but in case they are helpful, here
are my comments about the list of words given that could look like
contractions.
The rules of UEB indicate that if a sequence of letters is the same as
those used in a shortform (such as "alt" which also stands for
"altogether), then a grade 1 symbol indicator should be used before
the sequence when it means "alt" in order to make the meaning clear.
This is found in section 10.9.5 of the rules of UEB.
However, the list of words that this gentleman has provided all
include "groupsigns" when in grade 2 translation (such as the "con"
contraction in "concvg" or "th" in "alth".). Therefore, it would not
be appropriate to use a grade 1 indicator before these sequences
because they contain contractions which are grade 2 braille symbols.
The appropriate way to handle these letter sequences is to write them
without contractions; this clearly distinguishes them from the
shortforms.
I am using JAWS2018 Beta 2 which I understand uses Liblouis 3.3. In
this version, the sequences in this list are correctly being
displayed without contractions and are therefore easily
distinguishable from the shortforms.
JAWS 17 uses an older version of Liblouis, which is displaying the
contractions in these letters sequences, so that it is not possible to
tell whether a shortform is intended, or if the intent is the sequence
of letters.
Note that the sequence "ourfs" on this list does not correspond to any
shortform, and JAWS 2018 beta 2 is appropriately displaying a
contraction in this sequence. The person may have meant to type
"ourvs" which is the shortform for "ourselves"; the "ourvs" sequence
also appropriately displays without a contraction in JAWS 2018.
I hope this helps.
On 10/6/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,For a description of the software, to download it and links to
Do we have any ideas regarding this, or for that matter, anything that this
person is asking regarding UEB translation bugs? Thanks.
From: Robin, Michael [mailto:robin@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:43 AM
To: joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Missing grade 1 indicator for abbreviation or punctuation that
looks like contracted braille
Hi Joseph,
These issues are based on grade 2 UEB used by JAWS 2018.1710.1 using
Liblouis 3.3 as follows:
1. There is a missing grade 1 indicator (dots 5 and 6) followed by any
abbreviation that looks like contracted braille - see attached list.
2. There is the missing grade 1 indicator followed by any punctuation that
looks like contracted braille.
For example:
:text - colon looks like "con" on the braille cell.
context - full word including "con" on one braille cell
Please fix these issues that JAWS 17 is using your software.
There is no issue in any braille magazine that uses grade 2 UEB.
Thank you.
Michael
Programmer Analyst
