i think the kids need a forum for joking around and talking allot heavy moderating wikk take that away i think hose kids will know what homophobic - is and i trust them to drive their enemys away and feel stronger for it if not- we will drive them awaybut- MIKI- YOU SEE HOW SOMETIMES THE BEST threads in - Tapuz, for example- are the ones with all the arguing ...
אלית מאיירת http://www.elite-illustrator.com בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/ On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Mark Bendon wrote:
writing from phone hence brevity. you're right, it didn't occur to me that kids may well be reading. it'd be tragic if they were exposed to any phobic bile. On 4/11/08, Michael Blumental <mickey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi,I agree regarding the names. It'll be nearly impossible to find a good short name. The length isn't important as much as having a catchy name with easyto spell words.I think the mailing list is the best way to discuss this, as people get the messages right in their mailbox rather than having to visit an externalwebsite and login to a forum, though I'm open for suggestions. As to moderating forums, I'm being extremely paranoid. I want to haveexactly ZERO chance for any offensive message to be on the forums for more than a fraction of a second. Even with 24/7 moderation that would be a tricky task. That's why I think moderator approval for every post is a mustif we go for something like that. --MB On Apr 11, 2008, origamiairplane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:Long names are acceptable if they're well known phrases -- both stick in the memory. Unfortunately as I say there aren't many .coms left available, with people blanket buying a lot of random combinations of one or two words.On 11/04/2008, elite avni <pil@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: all these names are so long... lets find or creat aforum for this for now so we can chat easier אלית מאיירת http://www.elite-illustrator.com בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/ On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Mark Bendon wrote:Oops, er, www.athousandcolors.com was meant to be the American spelling, and it is still available. I spelt it the UK way in the previous email. Not thatgreat a URL, granted. :) On 10/04/2008, Mark Bendon <origamiairplane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hey guys, Nice to see things moving along. :)I personally think that the community is absolutely key to something like this, and vetting every post feels like something which could stifle its formation. Certainly mods should keep a watchful eye for homophobes etc., but so long as the site is clearly provided to support all types of families rather than promote homosexuality (not that I subscribe to the ridiculous notions people have about these things, but the world has more than its fair share of idiots who will point the "you're promoting homosexuality!" finger), a large section of antagonists should be deterred I think.I don't know how you guys feel about that, just my own two cents.A key ethos of the site could be the encouragement of contributions from itsreadership/forums perhaps?As for name ideas, I find it helpful to just jot anything down, get a longold list going, to start the old creative juices flowing.So, I've verified the following are all still available (unfortunately noneare one or two words -- there's not many .coms left to go round!): www.everykindoffamily.com www.takingallcomers.com www.jointherainbow.com www.followourrainbow.com www.athousandcolours.com www.everycoloureverycreed.com www.rainbowchain.com www.aplaceforusall.com www.nocloseddoors.com www.theeveryoneclub.com www.justonebigfamily.com On 10/04/2008, Michael Blumental <mickey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi,I don't think the website's name should have the word "gay" in it too. It should be something that promotes diversity and fun. In fact, it should bequite subtle, not preachy.Can't for the love of God think of any new names. I'll do some research tomorrow and list the names of other similar kids' websites/ portals. I'll also take note of what material they have on their site and what age groupsthey target. It is possible that some of the games we'll make will appeal toadults. Haven't thought of that... Can anyone here make Flash games? My ActionScript is rusty, but I might try to brush up on it in the upcomingmonths... --MB On 10 Apr 2008, at 22:52, elite avni wrote: Hi mIki I think the idea of several sections for deferent ages is goodbut also- perhaps each game will have levels- so a 4 year old can brag abouthim solving big boys riddles. and since you are a gamer i expect the game section to attract ppl from everywhere. yes- some homophobes too. perhaps they will learn a thing or 2... as for the name Gaymer as in Gamer ?and i had another one, but i dont remember the word. something that endswith- fairy - and is in the amusement park...i think it should be a short small name, easy to remember, not too much " gay-in-your-face"- so a kid can wear the shirt with the logo, and wontbe ridiculed as " you go to the gay site...na na na na " like CNV like K.G we loooove K>G (kids gay) or GK or \you know what i mean אלית מאיירת http://www.elite-illustrator.com בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/ On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Michael Blumental wrote: Hi,This e-mail from my friend Elite is in Hebrew and I imagine was meant to be sent to me directly. You don't need to understand hebrew to see that she's very talented from her attachment! Some interesting ideas which I'll roughlytranslate:Elite suggests to have forums and blogs (including a podcast). An idea I really like was to have competitions (drawing, colouring etc.). Also there was an idea to create shirts, stickers etc with logos and images from thesite.I think forums are a nice idea, but we need to be very careful with that. Itmight attract homophobes and perverts and needs to be very carefullymoderated. Perhaps even have a moderator approve every single message before it is posted. I think it'll be nice to create a section for parents to get feedback from them and keep them up to date with behind the scenes bits and sneak previews and perhaps even recruit visitors to volunteer themselves ifthey happen to have a creative talent.Age-wise: I was initially thinking of very young children, but I think we'llcreate two or three main sections aimed at different ages, offering a variety of activities.Another fun thing to think about is a name. Just throw in any silly name that goes through your name, even if it's bad. In fact, especially if it's bad. I'll go first with my horrible name, see if you can top it: Gay Jr.That name is wrong on so many way: 1) It's not inclusive. It's not only for kids with gay parents. 2) It sounds like it's about gay kids, which it's not. 3) It sounds like a child porn website! Yikes. Anyway! --MB On 10 Apr 2008, at 18:18, elite avni wrote: הי מותק ראשית אנא כתוב לי בקצרה בעברית את הרעיוןכדי שאוכל לשלוח גם לדורית, אור, קירש ויוענה- שאני בטוחה שישמחו לתרום.שניתאני מוכנה לצייר לפני דרישה דברים פשוטיםדפים לצביעה חבר את הנקודות, מבוכים ומשחקים וכואשמח לתרום ציורים קיימים שניתן יהיה לקשור אותם לכל נושא שתביאו בקשר לתכנים- מי אני שאוכל לחבר תוכן לכזו משימה, אבל אשמל להפיץ ברשימות תפוצהובפורומים מתאימים.אני חושבת שאתר כזה דורש מערכת פורומים ובלוגיםאולי שידורי פוד ורדיו קטן אולי קצת סלבסלא נראה לי שתהיה בעיה לרתום שחקנים וזמרים רבים- לכתוב איזה מכתב עידוד, להשיבבפורום וכו אשמח לעזור בשיפוט תחרויות ציור וצביעהואולי להעניק כמה שיעורי ציור או פוטושופ און ליין בכל שיטה שתבחר.כמובן שבהמשך ידרש הלוגו לככב על חולצות ומדבקות ודברים ממשיים ולא וירטואליים- אז חשוב עליו היטב, ואם אתה זקוק לעזרה- נראה לי שלאור יש נסיון כביר בזה.. (יוזם קווירחנות ותיק וידוע). המיזם שלך ראוי להערכה עלה והצלח אוהבת(ראית את הסאות'פארק הלפני אחרון על קנדה ??)<Sado3.jpg> אלית מאיירת http://www.elite-illustrator.com בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/ On Apr 10, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Michael Blumental wrote: Hi all, This is the new list for the new LGBT website project you all showedinterest in. The purpose of this list is to discuss exactly what we should be doing. The basic idea, as I pitched it before, is to have a fun website for parents and children where they can access stories, games and activities that they can enjoy both off-line and on-line. The twist is that the contentwill feature as a setting a variety of different family types: gay, transgender, single, mixed race etc. etc.So let the discussion start! I'll be creating a Wiki soon to keep track ofthe discussions on the mailing list.To write to the list either reply to any message sent by the list or composea message to lgbtwebproject@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .There are ten of us so far (though I know some have a less frequent accessto e-mail than others), but feel free to recruit for the cause. Anyway!My plan is to have stories and poems that can be viewed on-line (perhaps with simple animations or flash interactivity) or printed offline. There should be games and activities (connect the dots, spot the differences, colouring etc.). Anything else? Does anyone have any questions or thoughtson the technical side of putting it all together? Cheers, --MB-- Sent from Google Mail for mobile | mobile.google.com